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Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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I personally really like The Economist to get a good sense of what's going on globally.

I agree, though readers should be aware of their bias towards free-markets, liberal democracies and globalization.

What you said is broadly right, but it's always nuanced.

Yesterday they disavowed economists who are apologists for price-gouging on life-essential goods, such as masks, whose production cannot quickly respond to pricing signals.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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This crisis was not caused by the Corona virus. It is only the pin that burst a bubble that was already there, and if no virus would have happened, something else would have burst it. Austrians see the depression as a necessary correction, and the bubble as a problem. I actually sat down for a few hours to calculate what would have happened if this pandemic happened in the 50s, and no one could work (especially true…

We are de facto not in a bubble. Market growth over the last decade has been steady and healthy. A long term bull market does not define a bubble.

> A long term bull market does not define a bubble.

No, but inverted yield curves do.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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"All" you have to do is watch "How the economic machine works (in 30 minutes)" by Ray Dalio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0

Read his insights and watch his interviews. That's a good basic start. Everything more then that: Nobody really knows.

I have read countless of books, but one thing you have to know:

It is a market - period. Something has value just because another person wants to buy it (at a given price). That's basically all there is. If you think that some asset is worth more in 10 years then it is now - buy it.

The "markets" go heavily up and down currently. That's just because different people price in the current health crisis in different ways.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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post #53

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Then you should buy umbrellas, and not listen to people saying it'll be sunny forever.

No one sane thinks it will be sunny forever, and there is great economic cost in carrying around a bunch of umbrellas when the sun is shining overhead.

You should take a look at mainstream suggestions during 2006-07.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are de facto not in a bubble. Market growth over the last decade has been steady and healthy. A long term bull market does not define a bubble.

> A long term bull market does not define a bubble. No, but inverted yield curves do.

The only thing that defines a bubble is the post fact realization that it burst.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you should buy umbrellas, and not listen to people saying it'll be sunny forever.

No one sane thinks it will be sunny forever, and there is great economic cost in carrying around a bunch of umbrellas when the sun is shining overhead.

Then there is alot of insane people, and a lot of them are in government. That's why we need to have this conversation.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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We will never agree in what makes sense explaining economy because it's a political question. The first thing to do, in my opinion, is to accept that.

For me, personally, after trying to make sense for a while using the mainstream narrative, the only thing that worked was Modern Monetary Theory. Their explanation of the banking system is based in how it really works (mainstream textbooks don't), the sectoral balances framework (1) gives you a tool to think in terms of aggregate demand and their theory explain things that mainstream have problems with (like public debt ratios and inflation and interest rates relationships). There is a textbook available(2).

1.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectoral_balances 2.- http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?page_id=33139

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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Nassim N. Taleb, author of BlackSwan books. His thinking about risk/probability is timeless. Frequently publishes links to his papers and debunks the BS-peddlers on his twitter: https://twitter.com/nntaleb

I liked Taleb's "The Black Swan" but find his Twitter persona grating. He displays an attitude of, "anyone who doesn't agree with me is dumb". I think the opposite is needed now. Complex and difficult issues are better approached with humility, and a frank and open discussion of uncertainty.

Re: Ask HN: What are you reading to make sense of the economy?

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The only school that has any explanation for this is the Austrian School of Economics. Their theory of the business cycle is the reason they successfully predict every crisis to the tee (except for timing, no one can do that), while other economists are just blown away in surprise that it even happened. Mises and Hayek wrote big and hard to read books about it, but two that explain this to the layman are "Meltdown" b…

The response of governments around the world doesn’t look like it’s been informed by Austrian economics, and in places which have implemented some kind of policy derived from MMT (esp. Australia) things have been looking pretty good. What would Austrian economic policy have done differently and better?

Maybe I'm don't understand it properly, but it seems to me that Austrian economics would predict hyperinflation and high interest rates in Japan the last twenty years when the opposite have happened.

As you say Modern Monetary Theory models predict Japan and, also, the missing depressions in Australia.

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