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Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by tonyarkles »

imtringued wrote: post #28

In the JVM space there are now new web frameworks that specialize in Microservices. The advantages they offer are very low memory usage, better performance, fast startup time and finally the ability to generate a native executable via GraalVM [0]. [0] A lot of JEE Frameworks heavily rely on reflection and other dynamic features that cannot be used in a native image.

I admit I only dip my toes into the Java ecosystem occasionally. How low is low memory usage? The last microservice-oriented Java framework I used was Spring Boot, but I don’t know that I’d call it lightweight.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by dfgfdg »

cellis wrote: post #57

Frontend hottest: Next.js/Typescript/React w/ hooks. Backend hottest: Rust, Graphql is gaining adoption at the enterprise level. Edit: ML is still very hot but tough to get a job as a Data Scientist without actual experience.

nextjs? whats that

you meant "nestjs"?

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by abledon »

threeseed wrote: post #20
Scarbutt wrote: post #17

Java's market share is declining fast. Ruby and Clojure are dead, literally for Clojure, most libs are from >7 years ago. Javascript(and TS) and Python are the tools of the trade to achieve most common things. Devs are starting to realize how they got fooled by Rust's marketing/hype train for general purpose programming/exploration/prototyping and productivity because it's too restrictive and its compile times are at…

Should clarify that first statement. Java market share is declining but the JVM is still as good as ever. Instead everyone is moving to Kotlin and Scala.

"Java market share is declining" -- yes, 90% down to 86%

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by JamesBarney »

mrfusion wrote: post #59
mixedCase wrote: post #5

Probably the most surprising thing for you: Go is getting generics. No exact timeline, but it's happening for Go 2.0. Rust is seeing production use in many places and its being accepted more as the sane alternative to C for modern development of high performance software. Ecosystem still not big or mature enough to make big waves, however, but that depends on how you interpret "big waves". SPAs are used and abused, t…

Why kubertetes vs docker? And why rust vs D or golang ?

My God does Kubernetes sometimes feel like using a cannon to remove a zit.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by city41 »

mrfusion wrote: post #60
muzani wrote: post #4

I think React is "winning" the framework competition, if we're judging from number of jobs. It seems like a business decision for many people - React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier. I haven't had enough experience to say, but it seems like Java; not necessarily the best tool, but something easy to hire for. Flutter is also coming in hard on mobile. Also not something I've had enough experience t…

Dumb question but how is react better than jquery? (Im from 2010 instead of 2017 like op)

It's debatable if it really is for most sites, especially if you have a good way to generate/write your html. React is a better choice if you are truly building a web app rather than a website.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by ajkjk »

mrfusion wrote: post #60
muzani wrote: post #4

I think React is "winning" the framework competition, if we're judging from number of jobs. It seems like a business decision for many people - React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier. I haven't had enough experience to say, but it seems like Java; not necessarily the best tool, but something easy to hire for. Flutter is also coming in hard on mobile. Also not something I've had enough experience t…

Dumb question but how is react better than jquery? (Im from 2010 instead of 2017 like op)

They solve totally different problems. Jquery is a toolkit, react is a framework for how you build an entire app (reusable components that are specified by their props).

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by ergo14 »

city41 wrote: post #67

Svelte is slowly but surely growing and gaining attention. I think more than any other framework it has the potential to really challenge React in the coming years. https://svelte.dev/

That's not what npm stats show. Rich is good at marketing though.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by jf- »

mrfusion wrote: post #60
muzani wrote: post #4

I think React is "winning" the framework competition, if we're judging from number of jobs. It seems like a business decision for many people - React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier. I haven't had enough experience to say, but it seems like Java; not necessarily the best tool, but something easy to hire for. Flutter is also coming in hard on mobile. Also not something I've had enough experience t…

Dumb question but how is react better than jquery? (Im from 2010 instead of 2017 like op)

The main benefit is handling binding and state, and allowing you to easily break your application into a component hierarchy of reusable components. It also has an ecosystem that will let you find packages for most anything you want to do, probably in five different ways.
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