End to End Testing Flakiness - at my last company we spent a large amount of engineering time automating end-to-end tests. In the end we found them flaky, maintenance heavy and couldn’t get to 100% browser coverage. E2E tests are of huge value but their costs are still too high.
Ask HN: As a developer, what are your biggest pain points?
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#62Us devs got so much to complain about !
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#63Bad habits of coworkers - the worst of all is loud throat clearing or summoning snot. Eating smelly foods noisily at desks when there is a break out area available! Loud talking on conference calls!
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#64End to End Testing Flakiness - at my last company we spent a large amount of engineering time automating end-to-end tests. In the end we found them flaky, maintenance heavy and couldn’t get to 100% browser coverage. E2E tests are of huge value but their costs are still too high.
+1 to this. Huge pain point at several startups I have been at.
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#651. Hype driven development: NoSQL, microservices, serverless. Used in places where they do not fit. Same with CV driven development.
2. Risk-averse traditionalists/architects. Instead of choosing right modern tools they keep pushing for Oracle/PHP/Java whatever they know.
2. They pay me a small fortune but I always get slow Windows box. VirtualBox helps but it is complex and slow. My three years laptop is a few times faster than new company laptop.
3. Not enough room for personal growth. I have family and I have less time to learn new stuff.
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#66Honestly none. Not when I compare what I do to anyone I know. Pay is excellent. Hours are standard, work environment is comfortable. Jobs are plentiful. (Again compared to other professions) I know my programing skills here are nothing. But after 20+ years of doing this professionally it's clear there are not many people who can do this type of work. I'm very lucky to be one of them.
I know right? I would be bored out of my mind in an environment that doesn't have problems. I'm hired to fix problems, I don't care if it's technical, people, process, whatever. The more problems there are to solve, the more I'm challenged to fix it. When all problems are solved, then it's time to move on to a new challenge.
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#671. The industry changes so much I can't really tell if/when my skills will be truly dated (I work in front-end web/UI)
2. Sales/marketing. I'm a consultant and I just want to code and have work, but all of this stuff is just such a constant drag on my time.
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#68End to End Testing Flakiness - at my last company we spent a large amount of engineering time automating end-to-end tests. In the end we found them flaky, maintenance heavy and couldn’t get to 100% browser coverage. E2E tests are of huge value but their costs are still too high.
This so hard. You'd think we'd have it figured out by now.
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#69The rate of change of javascript frameworks and tooling. Need to learn a new one every year roughly. And dump all the working code and knowledge gained next year.
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#70End to End Testing Flakiness - at my last company we spent a large amount of engineering time automating end-to-end tests. In the end we found them flaky, maintenance heavy and couldn’t get to 100% browser coverage. E2E tests are of huge value but their costs are still too high.
Yep. We were just getting a handle on it and then the new wave of frameworks have largely broken it again due to browser DOM's not being stable. Basically gave up automating testing of our last VueJS project after 5 years of successfully automating traditional web stacks.