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Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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We are almost done with our VR program for fear of flying: http://FearlessVR.com

It's based on exposure therapy / systematic desensitization. It has special sections for turbulence as well as other common underlying fear of flying issues.

I successfully overcame my fear of spiders using Fearless for spiders.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I had a fear of flying, which I overcame completely by accident: I started playing a realistic flight sim for a while. Because it was realistic, I had to learn the basics of how to actually fly a plane. It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (…

Any recommendation for a flight sim? Always been interested, I think we owned a copy of the MS flight sim back in the 90s, never played as an adult.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I also had a fear of flying, one that lasted 3 years. It came on because of 3 terrible flights in a row. It was bad to the point where I could not even think about stepping on a plane. I ended up missing weddings and job opportunities because the fear of flying was so intense. I now fly regularly, and without issue. It took a long time, but I've found a few things that worked for me: 1. No caffeine on a flight day. T…

> A lot of my anxiety came from paying attention to the sound of engines. Was something odd happening? Keeping the sound of the engine drowned out helped keep my mind off the mechanics of the airplane.

I went of my first flight recently, that was the bit that really stood out to me - a little before landing the engines sounded like they powered down to nothing. I had an (internal) freak out, while I watched everyone else continue on like nothing happened. After we landed safely I learned that same lesson - don't listen to the engine. Someone else is driving, and listening won't help.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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>The last few times I've flown, I used a mental trick to help me get through it. I read that the odds of a plane crash is 1 in 1.2 million, so I used a random number generator to generate a number between 1 and 1.2 million, and then tried to guess what that number was. That gave me some relief but didn't completely stop the bad thoughts.

This type of probabilistic thinking, combined with the acceptance of the lack of control I have over the plane's destiny, tends to be more than sufficient for me. Even if the plane hits turbulence, I know that trained professionals are in control of the situation, and that there is literally nothing I can do to help the situation at that point.

I've found that accepting your own lack of control over a situation is instrumental in confronting all sorts of anxieties. There is nothing I can do, therefore I sit back and relax while enjoying the novelty of the current event.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I know not everyone have the means for that, but here we go: Why don't you try to take flying lessons ? Or at least the basics: - Weather - How a plane works, flies and such - Wind, current, clouds, etc.

This can be quite effective. I know of a few people folks who took a lesson or two in order to overcome their fear of flying, and ended up not only overcoming their fear but loving the experience so much they're now private pilots.

Often times your local flight school will offer an inexpensive "discovery" flight lesson for Alternatively, if you're in the SF area I've heard these folks are fantastic: https://www.fofc.com/

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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Here in the UK, several airlines run fear of flying courses. They involve a seminar with a psychologist and a pilot, followed by a short exposure flight. They report very high success rates. Is there anything similar in your country? https://flyingwithconfidence.com/ https://www.flyingwithoutfear.co.uk/

These folks operate in the SF area and I've heard they're fantastic: https://www.fofc.com/

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what was the name of the simulator?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but I've had loads of fun with FlightGear. Its free & open source. The selection of aircraft and some of the graphics are not as nice as the alternatives, but I've heard the realism is hard to beat. http://home.flightgear.org/

Thank you :)

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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> I read that the odds of a plane crash is 1 in 1.2 million,

That's a very misleading figure. In 2017 there were zero (read: 0) accident deaths on a commercial passenger jet. That a Turkish cargo jet smashed into a village in Kyrgyzstan doesn't affect me in the slightest.

Flying on a jet in the USA had a zero accident death record for over a decade. In this millenium, not counting 9/11, American Airlines Flight 587 in November 12, 2001 and Comair Flight 5191 on August 27, 2006 were the only deaths involving a jet. Three more involving turboprops. That's it. In 2019 February we will celebrate the tenth anniversary of the last one. No matter what happens to the plane they land them. It's quite amazing how bad shape some of them are but yet land in one piece.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I had a fear of flying, which I overcame completely by accident: I started playing a realistic flight sim for a while. Because it was realistic, I had to learn the basics of how to actually fly a plane. It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (…

This is similar to my experiences with getting blood drawn. About two-weeks prior to the draw I would watch a couple of videos on YouTube of blood draws each night. By the time the day came, I was still anxious but fine. I've been told that the anxiety was created by my nearly passing out when getting blood drawn but the mechanism for nearly passing out is different from panic or anxiety. Still, my "exposure therapy"…

OK, so I just saw Tom Cruise and James Corden jump out of a plane. Before I saw Will Smith do it. It looks like so much fun, but its so scary.

I wonder if the visualization aspect of jumping out of a plan would also help my nerves. Maybe set a date and then watch YT videos for a few minutes a day on tandem jumping.

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