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Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by 1000units »

bqe wrote: post #58
bufferoverflow wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IQ does negatively correlate with race, that's a fact. The point he (and others) make is that we shouldn't treat low-IQ people as subhumans, just because they lost in the genetic lottery. There are many other things that correlate with race, both phenotypically and genetically, there advantages and disadvantages to different ethnicities and races. Why is it so radical to say that IQ is different between races? Is it…

To those wondering why alt-right/neo-nazi/1488-type people are flocking to Jordan Peterson: this comment accurately describes both Peterson's views and the alt-right view on race. Many alt-right people claim they acknowledge "factual differences" of race, which is the basis for their ethno-nationalist views. Here's a discussion on the alt-right following of Peterson on his subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPe…

You're grievously slandering a man whom it appears you have made no effort to understand. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Prof. Peterson is possibly the furthest thing from a "neo-nazi".

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

my favorite were:

- How the reputation economy is creating data-driven conformity https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8797-social_cooling_-_big_data_s...

- DEF CON 25 (2017) - Weaponizing Machine Learning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRx18VZlYA&t=2121s

- BlackHat 2017: Breaking the x86 Instruction Set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by MistahKoala »

skrebbel wrote: post #38
youdontknowtho wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Jordan Peterson also famous for being a proponent of racial IQ theories? I'm really skeptical about IQ in general, but anyone popular with the far right really makes me suspicious. I'll take a look at the link you provided...But man, there are an awful lot of 1488 types that support this guy. It really makes me question where he is coming from.

I usually employ the same rule of thumb (although I don't know who "1488 types" are - my rule of thumb is that if a gamergater is passionately defending an opinion I default to the opposite until I learn more). But I've made an exception for Peterson. He's not as super left wing as much university staff, sure, but to call him extreme right is very far fetched. My impression, if this means anything to you, is that his…

> I don't know why the alt right likes him, but my guess is that he's a great speaker who presents something like a very moderate version of alt right opinion.

I think it's predominantly because his position on free speech, personal freedom and the academy intersect with some alt-right (itself no longer a useful term, IMO) perspectives on the culture war(s). That deepens a bit further with his work and comments on religion and philosophy. There's a kind of 'the enemy of my enemy' about it. But I think both aspects are easily misunderstood and/or mischaracterised by his superficial support as much as it is by his detractors on the extreme left etc. Meanwhile, I would be surprised if those on the most extreme fringes of the alt-right - ethno-nationalists, white supremacists, neo-reactionaries etc. - ever took to Peterson, based on his espoused views and/or his work on the psychology of tyrannies (notably the Third Reich) and the caution he urges as a consequence of that.

To me, he's fairly precise in talking about what he thinks (which may be right or wrong) and I think that's where it's easy to misunderstand what he's saying, which may have a specific, implicit point (and eventually ends up misinterpreted and misrepresented as something wholly different). Despite that, I've picked up on a tendency to offer views in the realm of civil rights and academia that are more off-the-cuff since gaining public attention. Sometimes these can come across as unusual or even pandering, and I think he's at his best when he's not being wheeled out as some sort of 'conservative' oracle (he's neither). The increasingly combative tone also doesn't seem fitting for someone who rose to prominence on the basis of presenting himself and his views relatively thoughtfully and reasonably.

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

youdontknowtho wrote: post #51
lwhalen wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chalk this up to 'things I wish I didn't know', but it's a neo-nazi slogan/concept of 'fourteen words' (something about 'saving the future for white children', yada yada) and 'heil hitler' - 'H' being the 8th letter of the alphabet. '1488-types' are a reference to the type of folks who buy into that horsepuckey.

Right there with you on the wishing I had never heard of it. I actually started referring to them this way because of an email from Curtis Yarvin to Milo Y. He was giving Milo advice about dealing with 1488 types in a way that doesn't alienate them as an audience.

Is that exchange public? I would love to read that email as a political scholar.

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by cpeterso »

* To Serve The People: Public Interest Technologists. Matt Mitchell is a hacker, security researcher, operational security trainer, and data journalist who founded & leads CryptoHarlem, impromptu workshops teaching basic cryptography tools to the predominately African American community in upper Manhattan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cm3N4Yi3b0

* Stop Rate Limiting! Capacity Management Done Right. Jon Moore is the Chief Software Architect at Comcast Cable, where he focuses on delivering a core set of scalable, performant, robust software components for the company's varied software product development groups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m64SWl9bfvk

* Keeping Time in Real Systems. This talk will tour the fascinating timekeeping mechanisms used in real systems. We will explore atomic clocks, NTP and GPS through systems that use them, and logical clocks in the context of systems built on logical time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRvj8PykSc4

* Level Up Your Concurrency Skills With Rust. This talk will show you how Rust will catch many concurrency errors at compile time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIikwmeGVYY

* Diablo: A Classic Game Postmortem. Diablo developer David Brevik returns to the GDC stage to give a classic post-mortem on Blizzard's action RPG hit Diablo in this 2016 talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VscdPA6sUkc

* The Flash Games Postmortem. In this 2017 GDC talk, Kongregate's John Cooney attempts to encapsulate the immense history of Flash games and how it has shaped the current game industry by giving game developers their first chance to build and publish their games quickly to the web.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65crLKNQR0E

* Siege Battle AI in Total War: Warhammer. In this 2017 GDC session, Creative Assembly's Andre Arsenault shows the approach used in Total War: Warhammer to create the very specialized high-level AI to guide these massive armies in a way that provides a convincing, epic-scale battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHolirTf9CI

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by user484573 »

skrebbel wrote: post #38
youdontknowtho wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Jordan Peterson also famous for being a proponent of racial IQ theories? I'm really skeptical about IQ in general, but anyone popular with the far right really makes me suspicious. I'll take a look at the link you provided...But man, there are an awful lot of 1488 types that support this guy. It really makes me question where he is coming from.

I usually employ the same rule of thumb (although I don't know who "1488 types" are - my rule of thumb is that if a gamergater is passionately defending an opinion I default to the opposite until I learn more). But I've made an exception for Peterson. He's not as super left wing as much university staff, sure, but to call him extreme right is very far fetched. My impression, if this means anything to you, is that his…

> I guess the most extreme thing he did, that he's somewhat infamous for, is refusing to use different singular personal pronouns than "he" and "she". While I think that he was an ass about that, to call someone far right for not wanting to say "ze" in a classroom is a few bridges to far for me.

I don't think this is a very good representation of Dr Peterson's position. He has said, I believe on The Agenda, that he'd consider using those words depending on the motivation of the person requesting it. If the person making the request is playing an ideological game, he will refuse. I think he also said that in the future, if the words naturally enter common parlance, he will consider using them. (I know you didn't argue this, but I'll add it:) he has also said that he would use the pronouns associated with the gender presented. E.g. for a biological male presenting themselves as female, Peterson would automatically refer to them as "she".

The main thrust of his protest that made him famous in 2016 was against compelled speech, that is, being able to force someone to use the words you choose with the force of the law. He says that his position is informed by decades of study of left and right authoritarian systems.

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by larrykwg »

1000units wrote: post #61
bqe wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To those wondering why alt-right/neo-nazi/1488-type people are flocking to Jordan Peterson: this comment accurately describes both Peterson's views and the alt-right view on race. Many alt-right people claim they acknowledge "factual differences" of race, which is the basis for their ethno-nationalist views. Here's a discussion on the alt-right following of Peterson on his subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPe…

You're grievously slandering a man whom it appears you have made no effort to understand. You should be ashamed of yourself. Prof. Peterson is possibly the furthest thing from a "neo-nazi".

But just calling someone a nazi is so much more efficient than having to come up with actual arguments on why he is supposed to be so evil.

Re: Ask HN: What’s your favorite talk from 2017?

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Post by kbaker »

unalloy wrote: post #14

Tony Seba on Clean Disruption: https://www.startupsilike.com/blog/emerging-trends-the-futur...

Highly recommended talk - About the convergence of Li-ion batteries, electric vehicles, self-driving cars, and solar energy over the next decade; and the impact it will have on the future of the electric grid, big oil, and the car industry and related industries (auto insurance, gas stations, parking lots, etc.)

Maybe a bit on the optimistic side? But exciting to consider the possibilities!

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