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Ask HN: When did you last put yourself out of your comfort zone?

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Re: Ask HN: When did you last put yourself out of your comfort zone?

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My Army service was voluntary, and somewhat less traumatic, but it similarly expanded my horizons and gave me a very different perspective on things. I consider it one of the better things I have done in my life both in terms of personal development and in terms of contributing. I served as an officer in both Iraq and Afghanistan and while I have been to England before, seeing those places gave me a very different pe…

What was your role in the Army? Would you do it again?

I was an Intel Officer. I served at different times as a analyst team lead, an Intelligence Platoon Leader, and a Battallion Intelligence Officer. Although I did go on some patrols and some raids and generally left the confines of the base numerous times, I certainly did not have the same kind of exposure to direct violence that many of our fine Infantryman and others did. I was fortunate in never coming under direct small arms fire, but I was near mortar and other indirect attacks.

I would certainly do it again. I learned a great deal about myself, leadership/management, and the world that I think I either would not have learned in the civilan world or at least not as fast. I also think I contributed to my country and (arguably) the world in ways that I could not have otherwise. I consider it a very bright point in my life.

Again, I was very fortunate in coming out with no real physical injuries and no mental trauma. I have friends that cannot say the same. Even for me, it was a great strain on my family and it was the birth of my son that persuaded me to return to civilian life.

I would certainly do it again, and I have recommended it to many of my younger friends. But I always recommend it after making sure they know that it is risky business, especially in combat arms in times of conflict. I knew two people, one of them a friend, who had what would be colloquially described as mental breakdowns. I knew several others that bear major scars from physical scars. Mercifully, I never personally knew anyone killed in the line of duty, but you only need to watch the news to be reminded that it happens. I have known several people get divorced because of it, and it came close to ruining mine before I returned to civilian life.

So, for me it was definitely positive personally, and I think that that holds true for most people who serve. I do not regret it, and I recommend it as an excellent career and way to serve for people with the right temprament. But it should never be forgotten that it carries risks.

Re: Ask HN: When did you last put yourself out of your comfort zone?

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4 months ago I began dancing classes(merengue,salsa,bolero,cumbia), never ever before in my life did any dance, before that I always kept enough physical distance to people, kind of shy with women, etc...and I am having the time of my life! I am enjoying it sooo much that sometimes I doubt it is me :)

Dancing is awesome. The dorm I live in had free dancing lessons last year - I got to meet girls and move around the floor looking like a goof for free.

Re: Ask HN: When did you last put yourself out of your comfort zone?

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When I gave notice to my steadiest client that I would be leaving them (too long doing legacy support in A Language That Will Not Be Named). I've worked for them for years, they are the main source of income for our house, and I don't have anything else solid lined up or any good network of other clients.

> I'm trying to determine whether pushing oneself past the comfort zone always results in a positive outcome.

Of course not.

As far as the outcome, ask me again in six months. :)

But in my case, it is time to make a change, whatever the price I may pay in the short term. I don't think I'll regret the choice even if I regret some of the consequences.

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Speaking at a developer conference. I've always been a natural on stage - as a dancer (as a child, through highschool, and in college (although that was a different kind of dancing)), as an actor (drag king, burlesque), and as a musician (in a band). I've always been terrified to go on stage, but I know once I get there, I'm fine and the fear melts away. But when the organizers of 360iDev asked me to speak at their i…

I got my first taste of conference speaking this year. Last fall, when my UI concept video got all its coverage, I received a couple of invitations to speak at tech conferences for the spring. It was very intimidating at first, especially as these were overseas. My primary fear was that they assumed I had already founded a startup based around the concept and would have all sorts of practical experience to share, so I talked down my experience with them a bit—but they were still interested, so I agreed to go right ahead!

I'd never been abroad before, so I had to do my homework on passports, visas, the Schengen agreement, and so on, while trying to put together something I thought would be of value to the attendees. As the dates drew nearer, I had a number of "I can't believe I'm actually doing this" moments, but I tried to stay confident.

In the end, it was more than worth it. The conferences and hosts were great, I got to experience some other cultures, and even though I still have some work to do on presentation rhythm, the audiences were very receptive.

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IMO, yes, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone always leads to a positive outcome. Here me out. I say this because when you are pushed passed that zone it is largely because of unknown(s). The more that unknown(s) begins to be uncovered the more you begin to accept that path. The more you accept it, the more you learn from it which will directly influence everything you do from there on out.

Even if you accept a path for a short duration, you learned something. As long as you're learning, good and bad, I can only imagine it is a positive outcome.

I haven't pushed myself past my comfort zone for a good while. That might change soon. The studio I'm working for is closing it's doors and my wife really wants to move back to KS from the Bay Area. There isn't a lot of technology there so I'm going to have to figure out a way to shake up the world in a place that dedicates life to aircraft manufacturing.

The time before that was when I took myself and joined the Marines which led to being part of the initial strike of OIF. Nothing quite tests your comfort zone like a combat zone. There are a ton of positives gained from pushing past that comfort zone (Marines, in general). Culture, leadership, work ethic, overcoming & adapting, diversity, and more.

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I think leaving your comfort zone forces you to grow, so even if you sustain some short-term bruising, the overall growth makes it worth it.

I knew I wanted a career in software, but I figured that out just as I finished a completely unrelated degree (business, as it happened). Eventually I decided I was just going to make it happen somehow, bought some books, and started jamming the knowledge into my head.

It was hard at first, but I really loved it once I got going. Way outside my comfort zone, and I felt a bit insecure posting to forums with my complete newb questions.

After really getting serious, with maybe eight months of coding every day after work building stuff I thought was really cool, I said all right, screw everything, this is for me. I did something terrifying: Gave my boss six months notice and started saving for my move to the west coast.

After I moved, I wanted a break from working for the man. I worked for myself another half a year building iPhone apps, sharpening my skills, and generally having a good time. About the time my savings ran out, a Bay Area startup hired me to do product stuff and now, voila, I'm in the industry.

Funny thing is, I miss writing code so I still do it at night after work.

A lot of time out of my comfort zone but a lot of growth, too. And if I hadn't forced myself to do it, I'd still be stuck in Florida, doing work that didn't really connect with what I care about.

So I dunno, I think if you get the sense you're out of your comfort zone, that's the feeling of your mind straining to grow to meet your new challenges. So far, it has worked well for me.

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I'm now out of my comfort zone, as I'm unemployed. I see it as a beneficial period because it has taught me again how to sell myself and hunt for a job.

regarding your original question, I have written a blog entry:

http://design-to-last.com/Technical/the-dangerous-comfort-zo...

Daniel

Re: Ask HN: When did you last put yourself out of your comfort zone?

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Thank you all for the truly great responses. You have all inspired me.

I've always pushed myself past my comfort zone ever since i was a little boy. Thankfully i had a very supportive mother who always encouraged me to explore my limits.

Doing so has always resulted in positive outcomes for me, but in the last few years pushing limits hasnt been quite so positive, or at least i thought it wasnt.

I realise now that its the attitude i take towards the events and circumstances, and what i choose to take away from my experiences.

I will say all in all, that if i happen to push out of my comfort zone as a matter of conscious choice, then the result is always positive, even if seemingly i have failed, for what better than to have learned something.

When its against my consent, i think thats when i tend not to look at things in a positive light, but i should learn to.

Anyway, once again, you have all truly inspired me, with some great experiences.

Thank you.

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Wow, that was pretty hardcore. Have they stopped the buy out option in Turkey to limit your military service a few months?

Here're the current options: No Bachelor's Degree: 15 months of service as private Bachelor's Degree: 12 Months of service as squad leader or 6 months of service as private Bachelor's Degree + Has been working abroad for 3 years: €10,000 + 1 months of service as private.

They're rewarding their educated people to leave the country? What's the rationale?
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