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Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#61

They're fine machines once you install real Linux on them. The hardware is excellent and they make great laptops for doing real work. Here are some notes about installing Xubuntu on the 2013 model. I hope some of this transfers to newer models: https://lee-phillips.org/pxsetup/

> The hardware is excellent

Is there a particular model you recommend? Seems like there are a variety of chromebooks, I wouldn't expect them to all be the same quality, but perhaps they are?

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#62
I've been using a Samsung Chromebook Pro for the last couple of months as my primary machine. Pretty happy with it! My needs are pretty modest though, as I do my development work over ssh.

I do think it's awesome to be able to run progressive web apps, Android apps and native Linux apps (using crouton and xiwi) side by side rather seamlessly. This makes it a more versatile platform than any, IMO.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

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I've been using a de-chromed acer c720 as my primary machine for a couple of years now, I upgraded the m2 sata, wiped it, and installed xubuntu. This is a low powered machine though, and the display barely tolerable. I use it for web browsing and side projects using vim and scripting languages.

Sounds like the newest machines are much more capable, I would never try to do Java development with a heavy ide like eclipse on this setup, for example.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#64
Yes, been using it as my primary development machine for the last two years. I work on a large Node / React codebase, and occasionally do design work.

My setup:

* Chromebook Pixel 2 in dev mode

* Crouton (https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/) running CLI-only Debian stretch

* Google's SSH app (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhec...)

* Tmux running with NeoVim, cmus for music

My dotfiles and setup scripts are all here: https://github.com/fortes/dotfiles

Overall, I like this better than the old mac setup I have. Being in dev mode (and having to enter crouton chroot once per boot) aren't ideal, but I've gotten used to it. I'm hoping that maybe we'll get first class support soon though ( https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/742f8j/how_chrome... )

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

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I'm wondering how feasible is it to run your development 100% on a remote machine. One of the drawbacks is that you need always access to internet, but this would not be a problem for me. I don't think that ssh + vim would work for me. I like GUI editors. Is there a good self hosted cloud IDE? Or is it maybe possible to run VS Code on a remote machine and access it through a web interface?

100% remote development is the norm at my company -- not remote from home, although that's an option you can work out with your manager. You can mount your sandbox's filesystem via sshfs, and use whatever editor you like. If your laptop dies, you really haven't lost any work.

Doesn't it get slow? I'm running Firefox with a profile on a mounted sshfs directory, and it freezes for a few seconds quite regularly, despite having a decent connection.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#66
Seems like to get any good developer use out of it you either got to root it or run crouton. Basically get some linux on it. I used macbooks for a long time but new one specially the 13" pro did not have the specs I was looking for. Eventually settled for a Dell XPS developer edition. But these new pixelbooks have an amazing build. Would love to get my hands on one but sounds like I'd have to root it for my purposes at least.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

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I tried to use a chromebook as an on-the-go machine where I wouldn't be too worried if it was stolen, but I wasn't successful. The requirements were: * Not Developer mode. I want the full security of verified boot. * All Security keys and whatnot needed to be on the yubi key. The ssh client did work with ssh-agent and the yubi keys, so that was good. Establishing ssh sessions from remote machines in parallel didn't w…

How did you setup ssh-agent?

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#68

I used a Samsung ChromeBook 2 (ARM) for about 3 years. You can load a full GNU/Linux environment such as Debian or Ubuntu with Crouton, but you have to enable developer mode. This involves an annoying beep every time you turn your machine on (or otherwise hitting ctrl-d at the right time), and you run the risk of disabling developer mode--thereby reformatting your drive--if you accidentally hit Spacebar. Unless they'…

+1 for Dell XPS developer edition. I bought one earlier this year and its fantastic.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

#69

Is anyone concerned about privacy using a Google laptop? I noticed recently that for years I've relied on Chrome's private browsing feature only to learn that it does not disable geolocation (unlike Safari) and websites always know where I am located even when browsing privately. And turning this off can change depending on the version of Chrome (in fact I cannot figure out how to turn it off in my current version).…

My company uses Chromebooks as primary computers with our own fork of ChromiumOS. Our build excludes Google keys thus hypothetically offers reinforced privacy.

Our fork is called NayuOS ( https://nayuos.nexedi.com ) and is a true system for hackers. It erases user folders on every restart and no extensions are allowed. It is very hard to track and since the Chromebooks are very cheap it is easy to exchange devices often.

It has to be run in Developer Mode thus you have writable /usr/. Chrome Brew is fully functional thanks to that but it is a security hazard.

My company moved everything to cloud so we access everything via browser. It was hard to get used to it but in the end it is a huge time saver. Google went the same direction.

Re: Ask HN: Do you use a Chromebook or Pixelbook as your primary machine?

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post #64

Yes, been using it as my primary development machine for the last two years. I work on a large Node / React codebase, and occasionally do design work. My setup: * Chromebook Pixel 2 in dev mode * Crouton ( https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/ ) running CLI-only Debian stretch * Google's SSH app ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhec... ) * Tmux running with NeoVim, cmus for music My dotfiles…

What do you use for the design work ? Just standard debian based software ? Any hacks to get adobe software working ?
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