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Noone cares about landmass.
But major cities, and therefore most of the workforce, are in Europe. I mean what else, are you going to make the argument that Russia belongs in Asia more than in Europe?
Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
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Do your own cost of living estimate. Last year my Junior Software Developer (with ETH Masters) balance sheet looked as follows : Income:8650 Taxes :1640 (income, social etc. ) Food/Drink/Dates: 1560 HealthInsurrance : 346 Rent : 1640 (2 rooms 64sqm) downtown nice part of town Other : 400 So i end up saving 3k per month But i don't have kids that would be >2.5k per kind for daycare.
Thanks for the real numbers. When I was looking the sort of salaries I was being quoted were in the 10000 per month range which is a lot more than what I'm currently on but would actually work out worse once costs are taken into account.
Also I would like to add that my friends who do not speak German are making all making less than 8333 (excluding those at google or a bank).
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But major cities, and therefore most of the workforce, are in Europe. I mean what else, are you going to make the argument that Russia belongs in Asia more than in Europe?
It does not belong to Asia either. Russians distance themselves from the both insisting on their own, superior God chosen ways.
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#64Data is impossible to read - seems like some people are converting their salary to USD, some others leave it in their home currency and a rare few provide the accurate currency. Interesting initiative though - would love to see this in a better format :)
At the end I plan to polish the results and publish them
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#65Salary questions should require a currency suggestion.
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#67"Annual gross salary": Euro? Dollars? Swedish/Norwegian/Danish crowns? British pounds? Swiss franks? Was this survey created by an American? ;)
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> But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. > AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, Nope. Scandinavia.
> Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. That's not the case. Health insurance plays very little role in this. I can go to a private doctor for peanuts. Salaries are low, because companies are "broke" and don't have million dollar funding and you can have a great lifestyle with fifth/tenth of a SV salary. > Nope. Scandinavia. Nope, Switzerland.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#69Interesting definition of Europe that includes UK but doesn't include Serbia not to mention Russia.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#70How about this: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2017#salary ?