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Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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> If not what are the reasons for a startup to stay away from .NET CORE? I've been using .Net for over 10 years now, and just launched a new product on Asp.Net Web API + SQL Server + Orleans. Whatever Microsoft says, .Net Core is not at all ready. The tooling and libraries are still undergoing major (and breaking) changes. You'll spend more time debugging it than your own code. I (foolishly) tried to adopt it a year…

I agree 100%. My last place was a 100% MS shop and while .NET core seems like it will be great we ran into endless problems, specifically with compatibility and existing libraries. We couldn't get anything more than a toy project to work. I recommend anyone looking at .NET core to use Java for now. The languages are basically mutually intelligible and while java is a bit less syntactically pleasant it gets the job do…

What? Just use .NET standard, no need to switch to a wholly new language (unless of course if your initial goal was some kind of cross-platform requirement).

EF isn't great, but there are a ton of ORM frameworks that blow NHibernate out of the water. These days I'm just using Dapper for most projects. It's small, fast and very easy to use.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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I first wonder what advantages are there in using .NET Core over anything else. I personally can't think of any and I'm a fan of c#. I would love to hear and this is not sarcasm as I started out in the ASP.NET world a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

There isn't really. If you wanted .Net Core you'd just use Java. Its been what .Net Core wants to be but has been for a very long time but with the tooling/libraries and such. I think the ship has sailed where there is a mass of devs out there chomping at the bit for C# on Linux. It'll be moderately successful because the .Net Framework userbase is large but most people have already reached for Java, Python or Ruby if they wanted to work outside of what that provided.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I agree 100%. My last place was a 100% MS shop and while .NET core seems like it will be great we ran into endless problems, specifically with compatibility and existing libraries. We couldn't get anything more than a toy project to work. This has been my experience with MS in general. Initially everything seems great and you feel productive, but as soon as you decide to go off-road you lose all that you gained and…

Standard .Net is acutally one the most well documented and stable platforms I've used.

I agree .net standard is super well documented.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree 100%. My last place was a 100% MS shop and while .NET core seems like it will be great we ran into endless problems, specifically with compatibility and existing libraries. We couldn't get anything more than a toy project to work. I recommend anyone looking at .NET core to use Java for now. The languages are basically mutually intelligible and while java is a bit less syntactically pleasant it gets the job do…

What? Just use .NET standard, no need to switch to a wholly new language (unless of course if your initial goal was some kind of cross-platform requirement). EF isn't great, but there are a ton of ORM frameworks that blow NHibernate out of the water. These days I'm just using Dapper for most projects. It's small, fast and very easy to use.

Dapper isn't an ORM in the same sense as EF and nHibernate, it's not bad, just different. There is plenty of room for both on a project.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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I have launched a product - engagekit.com using asp net core. Initially was faced with some package incompatibilities during the beta stage. However, things have improved since RC2. It's my personal venture, hence, there is no need to consider the impact to the existing technical team.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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We're currently evaluating ASP.NET Core for a task manager with web UI for our .NET application (a data transformation tool). Our target audience is people with little or no technical background therefore we can't ask them to setup IIS. I looked at other web-servers in .NET stack (e.g. Suave), but nothing looked sufficiently lightweight and easy to use. Although, we're looking for ASP.NET Core over .NET 4.5.1, not .N…

Self hosted nancyfx?

It's a good suggestion although at this point I don't see why it would be radically better for our case than ASP.NET Core. Our application has very few API endpoints and very low qps rate, so we don't need extensive routing or balancing. At the same time, since we have previous experience with ASP.NET the learning curve would be flat, while nancyfx is a new animal for us.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any startups willing to use the ASP.NET Core technology?

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My startup is based on Windows, the .NET Framework, ASP.NET for Web pages, and ADO.NET for interacting with SQL Server. For the programming language, I'm using Visual Basic .NET -- as Kernighan and Ritchie, IIRC, stated in their C , the lanugage has an idiosyncratic syntax, which it turns ou I don't like. Since C# borrows some of that syntax, I prefer the more traditional (like PL/I, Pascal, Fortran, Algol, etc.) syn…

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