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Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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So what made MB "Pro"? SD card slot? Height? Weight? Absence of TouchBar? People complain about 16GB RAM. Does your current MPB has more?

> People complain about 16GB RAM. Does your current MPB has more?

That's the point - the new generation should allow for more than previous. Why would be your motivation for purchase, to get exactly the same thing you have now?

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Massive tip if you decide to stay with a Open up the laptop and reapply the thermal paste on the CPU with something high quality like Arctic Silver. It really needs redoing after 1-2 years. This will result in a significant improvement to overall performance. Why ? Because when OSX detects that the laptop is overheating it schedules a dummy task e.g. secd or kernel_task to throttle the CPU. Cool the laptop and the th…

Is this specific to certain years only? I have a 2012 non-retina and it is great, but apparently certain years had more problems than others. Would you recommend it for my 2012 model too?

This is a general issue affecting lots of notebooks from all vendors.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#63

Massive tip if you decide to stay with a Open up the laptop and reapply the thermal paste on the CPU with something high quality like Arctic Silver. It really needs redoing after 1-2 years. This will result in a significant improvement to overall performance. Why ? Because when OSX detects that the laptop is overheating it schedules a dummy task e.g. secd or kernel_task to throttle the CPU. Cool the laptop and the th…

Is this specific to certain years only? I have a 2012 non-retina and it is great, but apparently certain years had more problems than others. Would you recommend it for my 2012 model too?

Not sure. But I suspect it is in the more recent years where the thinner unibody has been required to take on more of the cooling duties. So if you are like me and use your laptop on the bed, on your lap etc then you are by design preventing the laptop from cooling properly.

Everything I've seen says thermal paste is only effective at most a couple of years. It is harder to replace on your 2012 model but not difficult:

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid...

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#64

No terminal is on par with iTerm. I was using Linux and *BSD for years, used many terminals, and of all iTerm is bread and butter (and with that font rendering and retina screen, nothing comes close). I would recommend to evaluate your needs, but be objective! If you can live with 16GB of RAM (I can, I do not do anything that would require me to use 32GB of RAM) then buy last year model. I have it, amazing machine. A…

You should checkout hyper https://hyper.is/

Why should I, iTerm is native app, this is JS.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#65

So what made MB "Pro"? SD card slot? Height? Weight? Absence of TouchBar? People complain about 16GB RAM. Does your current MPB has more?

What made the MB "Pro", if memory serves right, it was filled with components that represented the state of the art when it was released. Best screen, latest generation of CPU, PCIe SSDs, etc... The best you could possibly get, in a sturdy, well designed machine, coming with an OS that just works. In 2013, some company even found that the best performing Windows laptop was a MBP (!). [1] [1]: http://www.zdnet.com/art…

The GPUs were never state of the art on Mac laptops, and they don't matter for those that just use iTerm + Emacs/Vi.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions

Can you elaborate? Why are the Ideapads terrible? Why get a Developer Edition?

Because Ideapads are developed by Chinese teams, with much lower target price points, and are under the management who thought Superfish was a good idea. Thinkpads don't have these problems.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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What is so special about iTerm? Features, font rendering? For features and portability, I can warmly recommend SecureCRT[0], you won't find a more capable terminal app anywhere. [0] https://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html

I like the ability to easily have multiple panes without having to learn tmux.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this specific to certain years only? I have a 2012 non-retina and it is great, but apparently certain years had more problems than others. Would you recommend it for my 2012 model too?

This is a general issue affecting lots of notebooks from all vendors.

Sure. But what I haven't seen on Windows or Linux is the deliberate high priority scheduling of a dummy process designed to throttle the CPU.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want absolute power - Lenovo P50 (though P50s is closer to MBPr)

I used to be a big ThinkPad guy, but I'm spoiled now. The thought of having to work with a Lenovo trackpad depresses me.

Use the trackpoint instead? Honestly the trackpoint on TPs has been a major, maybe the biggest, deterrent for me to abstain from ultrabooks.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#70
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Damn near anything. For the markup on equivalent specs that Apple commands, you can often get two laptops from other manufacturers.

That's not really true, if you configure equivalent rMBP and Thinkpad, the Thinkpad is going to cost you more.
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