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Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by masfuerte »

Y-bar wrote: post #572
GuB-42 wrote: post #372

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Performance was way better than what we have now with modern web stacks, we just have more powerful computers. I agree on security and bugs, but bugs can be fixed. It just shows neglect by Adobe, which was, I think, the real problem. I think that if Adobe seriously wanted to, it could have been a web standard.

Lots of people say performance was good, but that seems to be through the nostalgic lens of a handful of cool games. Those did sometimes run really great, but most implementations were indeed very slow. I remember vividly because it was part of my job back then to help with web performance and when we measured page speed and user interface responsiveness flash was almost always the worst.

Right. But that doesn't mean the performance of Flash was bad for what it was doing. Or that it was worse than the performance of doing the same thing in modern HTML+CSS now.

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by maratc »

reactordev wrote: post #551
maratc wrote: post #521

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I've edited my comment to better present the issue.

Out of order closure should definitely error out with an “unclosed italic tag detected at line:…” error.

> It’s totally valid XHTML, just not recognized.

Am I right in assuming that even you didn't notice the problem the first time you looked at it?

> Out of order closure should definitely error out

Hitchens's razor: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

Re: Ask HN: Abandoned/dead projects you think died before their time and why?

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Post by javier2 »

gmuslera wrote: post #3

Maemo/Meego. I know there is Sailfish still around, but things would had been very different today if Nokia had put all its weight on it back then.

I was gonna say Meego. They killed it just as it was getting to a usable state. One of the last chances we had to get a proper third option in the mobile market.

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Post by phire »

s3p wrote: post #567
_bent wrote: post #559

Lytro light field cameras. The tech was impressive and the company was able to put two products on to the shelves, though unfortunately they hadn't quite reached the image quality needed for professional photographers. But now with the new Meta Ray-Bans featuring a light field display and with new media like gaussian splats we're on the verge of being able to make full usage of all the data those cameras were able ca…

Don't phones do this now? I remember Lytro cameras, they were really exciting.

Phone cameras fake it.

They don't capture a light field like Lytro did, they capture a regular image with a very deep depth of field, extract a depth map (usually with machine learning, but some phones augment it with stereoscopy or even LIDAR on high end iPhones) and then selectively blur based on depth.

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Post by acemarke »

fodkodrasz wrote: post #325
sauercrowd wrote: post #238

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What's "the Elm architecture"?

A simple UI programming pattern, with a circular, unidirectional data flow. It is very rigid by design, to be side-effect free, functional, unidirectional: https://guide.elm-lang.org/architecture/ I'm no frontend guy, but I think it did/was inspire(d) react (redux?) maybe. Corrections on this very welcome

Correct - Elm was one of several inspirations for Redux:

- https://redux.js.org/understanding/history-and-design/prior-...

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Post by bawolff »

jasode wrote: post #586
markasoftware wrote: post #558

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if the world was all XHTML, then you wouldn't put an ad on your site that wasn't valid XHTML, the same way you wouldn't import a python library that's not valid python.

>, then you wouldn't put an ad on your site that wasn't valid XHTML, You're overlooking how incentives and motivations work. The gp (and their employer) wants to integrate the advertisement snippet -- even with broken XHTML -- because they receive money for it . The semantic data ("advertiser's message") is more important than the format ("purity of perfect XHTML"). Same incentives would happen with a jobs listing we…

If xhtml really took off, there would just be server side linting/html tidy. Its not that hard a problem to solve. Lots of websites already do this for user generated html, because even if an unclosed div doesnt take down the whole thing its still ugly.

The real problem is the benefits of xhtml are largely imaginary so there isn't really a motivation to do that work.

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