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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Ooh, that's one of "fun" ones alright. Can happen if the perceptual validator has encysted the behavioral corrector. (Or vice versa I guess; I just ripped out mine since they were known bad; other story - point is, being unable to examine things too closely is part of the whole predicament) Jail as liminal space makes total sense as the environment for habitual workarounds to fray and the underlying issue to manifest…

Why the downvotes, (purportedly) sapient ones? Don't yall ever debug yallselves? Figures...

Your writing comes across as insane rambling. Don’t have the ability to downvote you so it wasn’t me.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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1) as the child of a parent who was a smart, hard working accountant/financial analyst who was out of work for 2 long stretches in my youth, I have learned when you lose your job, you do not fuck around — you attack it with the same urgency as if the house was on fire as in immediately; 2) after 25 years, you’ve got to have some network — swallow your pride and use them. I have been there, and I saw my father — there…

Applying to 400 jobs is apparently not enough sense of urgency, got it. It's surely American laziness that's the problem and not the infinite slave labor they're competing with.

400 applications in two years is less than one application a day. The last time I was unemployed I was applying to five to ten companies a day all with targeted cover letters. I kept track of every application and followed up. I made it an eight hour a day job to find a job.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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I am probably totally wrong but to me personally It seems like the loudest voices on tech unemployment come from two camps: - fresh grads with limited experience - seasoned specialists used to high salaries and status. Both groups seem to have a tough time in today's changed market. While I'm not unemployed, I've followed the layoffs and salary trends. I keep wondering whether holding out for old salary levels is a b…

I don’t think so re salary expectations. If that were the case people would complain about being lowballed. Instead people are complaining about not getting interviews.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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post #360

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1) as the child of a parent who was a smart, hard working accountant/financial analyst who was out of work for 2 long stretches in my youth, I have learned when you lose your job, you do not fuck around — you attack it with the same urgency as if the house was on fire as in immediately; 2) after 25 years, you’ve got to have some network — swallow your pride and use them. I have been there, and I saw my father — there…

Applying to 400 jobs is apparently not enough sense of urgency, got it. It's surely American laziness that's the problem and not the infinite slave labor they're competing with.

You are missing the point that a director level resource, could only apply to a relatively smaller number of roles. Entry level IC might not be worth applying. So despite what they say, the limitation factor might also be number of posted jobs.

I know they said they applied to anything - but still anything for that profile might be a bit more broad - entry level IC to FANG may be which pays better or a role that is open to leveling or start up or any other combos.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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In addition to possibly being a scammer, some people found my resume to be less believable without a linkedin profile. One interviewer thought I was lying about my previous job title.

What? I just put “computer programmer” for every position listed on LinkedIn - why would that be any more valid?

One place really didn't like that mine says "software engineer" instead of the proper string of letters. Makes me look incompetent apparently.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

#597

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Applying to 400 jobs is apparently not enough sense of urgency, got it. It's surely American laziness that's the problem and not the infinite slave labor they're competing with.

400 applications in two years is less than one application a day. The last time I was unemployed I was applying to five to ten companies a day all with targeted cover letters. I kept track of every application and followed up. I made it an eight hour a day job to find a job.

Heads up - OP said they entered 400 apps over the past 1.5 months, not since they’ve been unemployed.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Two weeks before Christmas in the big recession I got laid off. Earlier in the year I had gotten divorced had just told my bosses how much I appreciated having the job to focus on because of the loss of my marriage. I was told they were bringing in an MSP who would charge half my salary and come in twice a day but the details didn’t really matter. I can see now in hindsight how you cope really just boils down to what kind of person you are and of course depends also on your financial situation. Mine was not good and so the stress of having to rely on unemployment, which I will say thank God for Massachusetts and for Obama (he extended unemployment financial help during the recession), which for me meant I got paid enough to pay rent and live for over a year and a half. I looked for work every day but I did what they recommend which is to spend time in the morning, sending out resumes working on LinkedIn, networking making calls and then I put it away. But the stress of it was enormous. For just a moment in the morning I would wake up and feel really good, rested, and then I would remember that I didn’t have a job and the fear would grip me for the rest of the day. I’m sure it took gears off my life. I try to help anyone who is in a similar situation not sure words can really help those of us who are more inclined to be worrywarts. There are people who don’t care who are unemotional about it and good for them, but for me, it was a very difficult time. I’m still scarred by it. I refuse to trust business. My friend says it’s PTSD, but really I think in those moments you have to be kind to yourself and do everything that they say helps in stressful situations; exercise stay away from alcohol travel yoga and actively try not to beat yourself up if you’re a sensitive kind of person. Anything that helps with endorphins consider working in a side field or part-time doing whatever you have to do to pay the bills. I was proud and wanted to stay in tech. I remember a few years ago finding a big amount of space taken up on one of my old hard drives. I found that the reason was hundreds and hundreds of PDFs of my resume that I had sent out. It does eventually get better. You do eventually find a much better position with good people better pay, but you have to believe that it will happen. You have to generate that goodwill and belief in the future. Best of luck to anyone looking.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

#600

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Have you tried tea instead? Its effect is markedly different from coffee. THere should be no anxiety, but still contain that cognitive benefit.

After some thought, I will give tea some fresh consideration. Mostly due to age wiping out my resistance to bad-choice consequences.

Would recommend green tea in particular. I love the Japanese teas.
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