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Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by vallas »

kfogel wrote: post #431
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #211

As a hiring manager, the things that stand out to me in your post: - You said you quit a job at EA, quit a job at IBM, dropped out of college your freshman year. You may have valid reasons for leaving each of these, but you have to see this from the manager's perspective: You had 3 different great opportunities that all came to a dead end at the beginning of your career. You need an alternate narrative. - You talk ab…

I just want to say that this was a kind, detailed, and thoughtful response -- beneficial to the OP, no doubt, but also probably to others. It was nice to be reminded that sometimes the Internet doesn't suck. Thanks for taking the time to write that reply.

> It's a good comment with the right instinct but for the wrong reasons. The biggest red flag is struggling with personal finance. You can't get jobs like the ones he wants if you live beyond your means and constantly land in hot water with money because people who are like that are at risk of turning to evil to make ends meet.

Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by MattyMc »

throw14082020 wrote: post #542
kamaal wrote: post #532

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>You said you quit a job at EA, quit a job at IBM, dropped out of college your freshman year. You may have valid reasons for leaving each of these, but you have to see this from the manager's perspective: You had 3 different great opportunities that all came to a dead end at the beginning of your career. You need an alternate narrative. Things like this are very important. Job hopping is a giant red flag for lots of…

It’s not job hopping that’s the problem. It’s unemployment. Companies actually like job hoppers because they learn more, and actually can find those jobs, hence they hop. Job hopping without jobs (gaps) is unattractive but that would be unemployment not job hopping, since the dude is unemployed. I’m saying this only for people who are in utter shit jobs and have the talent to find another one, but are afraid to be cl…

> Companies actually like job hoppers

I would encourage you to rethink this idea.

Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by [deleted] »

wildermuthn wrote: post #411
maroonblazer wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When responding to a comment that asserts your writing is not strong you'd want to read, re-read, and re-re-read your reply to ensure it is well written. You seem to have not done that, which lends credence to the parent's comment. My take is you seem to have an inflated sense of your abilities. I've interviewed people who share this trait and it's a turn off unless they have a portfolio of work to back it up. Perhap…

Good point, but snakedoctor did set this in motion by asking for candid feedback. Ostensibly, he wants to receive and integrate feedback. Seems like the sort of thing a smart kid would aim for. Part of me feels like in a decade people will reference this thread in the same way we reference the shellacking of Dropbox back in the day. It takes a cosmic-sized ego to ask HN to give you advice about why no company will ac…

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Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by yarcob »

throw14082020 wrote: post #542
kamaal wrote: post #532

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>You said you quit a job at EA, quit a job at IBM, dropped out of college your freshman year. You may have valid reasons for leaving each of these, but you have to see this from the manager's perspective: You had 3 different great opportunities that all came to a dead end at the beginning of your career. You need an alternate narrative. Things like this are very important. Job hopping is a giant red flag for lots of…

It’s not job hopping that’s the problem. It’s unemployment. Companies actually like job hoppers because they learn more, and actually can find those jobs, hence they hop. Job hopping without jobs (gaps) is unattractive but that would be unemployment not job hopping, since the dude is unemployed. I’m saying this only for people who are in utter shit jobs and have the talent to find another one, but are afraid to be cl…

If someone never stayed more than a year at a job that's a pretty major red flag.

Most hires will take a year to get productive (where they produce more value for the company than they cost).

I would never hire someone if I expected them to leave in a few months (except an intern).

There are exceptions. An experienced consultant may be hired only for short, specific projects. But if you're struggling to get hired, you don't fall in that category.

Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by trif1 »

You are not unsuitable you have high negative emotions and low social skills. It would actually do you good to go learn to be an entrepreneur rather than looking for a job. Give you a hint you are looking in the wrong places. Your obviously high in iq. To be frank your best opportunity is presenting itself to you. Pick up the torch of the provider and go hunt for your meal. Go do something in sales and learn the soft skills necessary for a successful life.

Good luck and God bless I'm sorry you have found yourself in a position where you are so afraid.

To get real your mindset is the real reason you are in the position you are.

Bless

Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by agnesm »

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Re: Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job?

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Post by CodesInChaos »

ehnto wrote: post #522
jart wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good comment with the right instinct but for the wrong reasons. The biggest red flag is struggling with personal finance. You can't get jobs like the ones he wants if you live beyond your means and constantly land in hot water with money because people who are like that are at risk of turning to evil to make ends meet.

What jobs inquire about your financial history? That seems a little dystopian. Can't get a handle on your finances because you don't have a steady job, better not give them a steady job!

Financial stability is essential for getting clearance, which I assume would be required for several of the mentioned employers.
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