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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#571
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADLINE: Open terminal from Nautilus right-click menu

DESCRIPTION: It would be useful to be able to open a terminal from any direcrory of Nautilus and the terminal would point to the same directory immediatelly. I know Nautilus is a Gnome development but thought it would worth to ask for this. I find it hard to open a terminal each time when I'm a middle od something and cd t the directory manually.

ROLE: IT PM

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#572
I would like unity-webapps-amazon to be re-separated from unity-webapps-common and for Unity Tweak Tool to be aware of the presence or absense of the Amazon webapp. Not even because I'm personally worried about it, it's like ~50 lines of javascript total, and it's obvious what they do, but I'm bored to death of talking about the thing to people who want to try a Linux distribution and I want to recommend Ubuntu, but then they say "But I heard this FUD..." and I have to explain why that's an incomplete picture of the event and it's aftermath instead of getting them up and running.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#573
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server

- HEADLINE: Simpler install customization and actual canonical (lol) guides for how to do certain tasks

- DESCRIPTION: Customizing/automating install images is a pain. I've spent years working on making the debian/Ubuntu installer do just the things it was designed to do (e.g. preseeding) and it still feels like I have to cobble together information from ten different resources and read through the installer code to figure out how things are supposed to work.

I would love a simple way to understand and customize the installer. A canonical list of preseed options would be great. A clear guide to building and integrating custom udeb packages would be great. Some way of hooking in with Python or shell scripts where the Ubuntu installer can handle them intelligently (putting them in /scripts/{pre,post}_install.d/ rather than specifying a single command in early_command/late_command which then runs x more scripts) (and better functionality for handling this via netboot), information on how to specify a custom list of installer packages to load or integrate, a clear guide on how to take an Ubuntu server ISO and remove any packages I don't need, scripts to rebuild the package list more easily, a simple guide on how to run the installer via NBD or NFS.

All of these things are possible and there are guides for them all over the place, but I've yet to find a single, simple "system builder's guide" which will tell me, an admin, how to do the various levels of customization which are already possible and supported.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Devops, sysadmin, IT, etc.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#575
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FLAVOR: Desktop HEADLINE: Pick an official laptop for the release. ROLE: End-user, Sysadmin, Developer I would love for Ubuntu to, with each release, pick a laptop vendor and a laptop and just Make It Work. All the components. Out of the box. As near perfect as one can get it. So when I'm in the market for a new laptop, I can just buy that one. And I'm not talking about a pro gear like the XPS. Just simple, cheap con…

What's wrong with using XPS? I picked one up for $1200 last time I bought one, that's not too high of a price. You'd typically want the flagship device to be at least mid-tier to show off the best features and support for new mainstream technology, like the HiDPI stuff other people are talking about.

Here in .nl, the cheapest XPS is 1500 euros, or 1700 dollars.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#576
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Volume leveling across applications

- DESCRIPTION: I use headphones every day. I listen to music and podcasts while I work. I use youtube videos and screencasts to learn new things. Sometimes I hop on a VOIP call through one service or the other. The one feature I miss most from Windows Desktop life is the "volume normalization" checkbox in my sound settings. It protects me from opening a new chrome tab and blasting noise into my ears at +30db. It protects me from that guy on the voice call that has his mic level WAY too high. It helps me hear the other guy who can't get his mic above a whisper. Most of all I never have to fiddle with individual application volume levels. Linux Desktops love to crib ideas from Apple, but for some reason they've all ignored this killer feature from 2006.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#577
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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Built-in support for installing up-to-date packages - DESCRIPTION: Currently, `apt install [package]` on LTS Ubuntu will install a package that is up to 24 months out of date (or more if you're not on the latest LTS). Literally one month ago, using the latest version of Windows 10, I installed Ubuntu for Windows (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` insta…

I very much agree. Apart from driver issues this is the area that creates the most friction for me. It feels weird having to fight the OS on something where the right thing to do seems so obvious.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#578

OK here goes.. - FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Drop Mir & collaborate with Wayland - DESCRIPTION: I know this is a touchy subject and I'm not looking to self-righteously re-re-re-ligitage everything but... between Intel walking away, licensing concerns, Ubuntu varients not jumping onboard, and various community concerns, would you re-consider abandoning mir and joining forces with Wayland? I understand you felt…

I was about to write this exact post. This is the main reason I use Arch Linux. Arch just follows upstream without worrying about holy wars.

There are dozens of ways Ubuntu can innovate/differentiate. Fighting a holy way of Mir vs Wayland (when you came second, and Wayland already had major support) is not a good use of your time. Same goes for Snap vs Flatpak. And what about Juju, or Bazaar (though that's dead now, isn't it?). You did well accepting systemd over Upstart. You could do the same with Wayland (over Mir), Flatpak (over Snap), and officially EOL Bazaar.

I'm not a Unity fan, but that seems like a genuine way for Ubuntu to differentiate and/or compete. Mir and Snap are not. They're just incompatible alternatives that divide the open source community. I know that alternatives can often be good, and inspire competition. But when it's clear you've lost, it's sometimes better to follow your Upstart/Systemd example and join the winning side.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#579

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

It's user error on your part. The proper way to upgrade a Debian/Ubuntu system is:

  $ apt-get dist-upgrade
  $ apt-get autoremove
dist-upgrade installs new kernels, and autoremove will automatically remove old kernels (and keep the last 2 most recent ones.)
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