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Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016?

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Re: Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016?

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Bitcoin has been my most profitable.

Can you elaborate please ? I am considering investing a some time in bitcoin and blockchain next year and I would really appreciate your insights. What tools/services/websites did you use ? Did you learn that on your own ? what resources did you use ?

Pretty sure Bitcoin works best for the people who got in early.

anon4this1: I bought 5800 bitcoins mostly for around $5 back in 2011ish [...] I'm up 15,400% in 5 years

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13093895

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> you are probably better off borrowing against your investments if you need cash I don't understand what that means. Whom would you be borrowing from? Where would the cash be coming from?

Your broker https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=interest&p...

That requires 110k$ and you can't just take money with that rate, it's margin. So you should have more than 110k$ to take some of that money and replace them with margin.

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Your broker https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=interest&p...

What happens if your stock goes to zero in the meantime while you've borrowed against it?

Broker will sell your stocks to prevent it's losses.

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Older bills are worth face value in the US, why does anyone take a 30% discount on them?

They are worth face value in the US, but not outside of it. See for instance this question: https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/25959/converting-... Instead of simply not accepting the bills, some places take a discount to offset the risk that they're fake. The older the bill, the greater the chance that it's a counterfeit.

Interesting, thanks for explaining. I thought it might be due to the risk of counterfeit, but I thought there must be some way of verifying still. Sounds like if there is, it's out of reach of many of the money changers.

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That's part of what you are getting paid for. You are getting paid for providing TSLA liquidity and risk of default on loans.

That's true. The only point I would add is that my loan is with the brokerage and they put up cash collateral. I'm not having to deal with individual short sellers and whatever risk profile they might have.

If the brokerage puts up cash as collateral where is the risk?

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Breville coffee grinders are impossible to get internal parts for. I designed a 3D printed upgrade for the main wear-part in their BCG800XL SmartGrinder. The storefront is through ShapeWays[1] and I use ifixit[2] to drive the traffic. It's passively making ~$425/mo with about 10 minutes of work per week on my end. This all happened because my grinder failed and I couldn't get parts. [1] https://www.shapeways.com/prod…

have you attempted to upgrade to an alloy based blade?

Super cool side project.

Re: Ask HN: What was your best passive income in 2016?

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I read that book this year. The entire book can be summarised as. Don't attempt to beat the market. The market cannot be beat (many examples in the book). Invest in index funds long term which is the right mix of risk/reward for most people. It does have a chart in the back which tracks your age and situation. For example as you approach retirement you should start to liquidate your funds and buy government bonds so…

>The market cannot be beat. I really would like to believe this, but please explain to me how then how firms like Renaissance can exist ... Not sure whether it's relevant but I'll add that I'm an economics PhD student.

Rentech, in particular, data mines weak signals out of gigabytes of historical data, and has a team of PhD mathematicians working to find these signals. Each strategy has some small positive expected value, so in aggregate they can be profitable.

Two reasons you can't replicate this - 'you' aren't a team of super top notch mathematicians with decades of data, and even if you had an exact copy of their trading strategies, you don't have the capital to make the transaction costs, etc, worth it.

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Young hackers who have a surplus of income and have funds to spare that aren't being channeled toward debt / family / donations, heed me: save as much of your salary as you can, and put it in boring investments (index funds / etc), probably through vanguard.com (no affiliation, I just use them and have heard nothing but good things from people I trust). You can pretty easily set up your job's direct-deposit system so…

I put 25k into my investments this year, and I made 40k in unrealized gains, following the above strategy. It works folks. My blog post about financial independence: http://mays.co/why-financial-independence/

Yes, it works. I've been investing a minimum of $500/week for the past 8 years. Currently I'm investment $1000/week. I make good money and keep my expenses low, and now have more than 33x my yearly expenses in investment/savings. I'm planning on retiring early...

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For what it's worth, my best passive income was from investing as much of my income as I can part with paycheck to paycheck. No boring investments though, always the exact same two funds: UWTI and DWTI, both of which are gone, they delisted on Dec 8th. That said...there are many funds like them, those in particular are 3x leveraged crude oil ETF's. That means if the price of oil rises 1%, UWTI rises 3%. If it falls 1…

So what happens to UWTI when the price of oil falls 1% and to DWTI when it rises 1%?

They'll move 3x. When oil falls 1%, UWTI rises 3% and DWTI falls 3%. That's good for a short term bet if it goes your way. In the long term it corrodes the value.

Lets say UWTI is trading at 100 today. Oil is trading at 50.

Day1: Oil falls 47.5 (5% drop). UWTI will fall to -> 100 * ( 1 - 3 * 0.05) = 85

Day2: Oil rises back to 50 (5.26 % rise). UWTI will rise to -> 85 (1+ 3 * 0.0526) = 98.42

So even though oil price recovered, you lost $1.58. Over a period of time, rise and fall in oil prices corrodes the value of UWTI & DWTI (and similar leveraged ETFs)

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