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Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by snarf21 »

NonEUCitizen wrote: post #520
snarf21 wrote: post #322

You should definitely come to Lancaster PA!!!! There are lots of houses downtown for less than $400K and even new "luxury" condos going up everywhere. There is a convenient train that can have you in Philly in an hour for Come live with the cool kids. (Source: I live in Lancaster and there is no place better net net)

Which beaches are within two or three hours? Thanks.

You can get to Lewes, DE or Rehoboth Beach, DE in 2.5 hours during off hours and 3 hours in traffic .. So all the DE beaches, South Jersey beaches and Ocean City MD beach are just a bit more time .. You can also get to the Chesapeake Bay in less than two hours

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

solar-ice wrote: post #537
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #527

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Lol, what? Here is how gentrification works: Nobody gets removed, they just have to leave. It's a subtle distinction but that's how it happens. Poor people don't own anything. Their furniture is mostly stacks of junk that is so bad that it would be hard or impossible to get someone to accept it for free (this is very nearly a tautology, since the poor person got this furniture for free to begin with, and it's was so…

Ehh. Being kicked out of your home is being removed, even if it's perfectly legal. Fixed-term rental contracts are nearly entirely immoral imo. And while an accurate depiction of how this affects the people who were barely hanging on in the first place, there is a later step, where people who /have/ been renting all their lives in one area find themselves unable to continue to pay rent. You're not necessarily a homeo…

I think it's an interesting moral question: How much are you responsible for someone else's failure to plan ahead or foresee consequences? What are the consequences if we make you responsible for other people for their entire life just because you have some economic interaction with them?

I think if you make renting someone an apartment a lifelong obligation to provide them with housing at approximately that cost then only a fool would ever rent out an apartment. The supply of apartments to rent would go to approximately 0. One strange consequence of this would be that the price of housing would plummet as a result as all the landlords left the market. When you went to buy a condo, instead of competing with landlords and money launderers you would only be bidding against other people who want to live in the apartment. I saw this first hand at the GHI housing co-op in Maryland, buying a unit there was dramatically below market cost because they did not allow anyone to live in units apart from owners.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by jason-phillips »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #496
pontifier wrote: post #471

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How can I run a serious business if I can't use the warehouse I bought? Why can't I use it? Because the city won't let me. I'm not the only one. This guy, Garland Trice, had his building demolished by the city because he failed to repair it. Why did he fail to repair it? Because the city would not give him permits. It's SO RIDICULOUS here! They've closed down the movie theater because they wanted to bring in their ow…

I don't know much about this town, but I will say that your approach of yelling at people won't work. It rarely does. My suggestion is that you at least act like you care about their concerns. Go to their meetings. Even a few that are unrelated to your building permits. When their offices are open, go to ask them what they need to hear from you. Be nice. Ask people what they want. Make them feel comfortable. Be prepa…

This is the best advice and perspective I've seen in this thread.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by selimthegrim »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #528
selimthegrim wrote: post #510

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He is in Srinagar, Kashmir. Probably the vendors live above their shops and will open up in an emergency.

nope. unlike your "idea", the picture you're painting must've been 20-30 years ago and definitely not now. we have SMHS hospital which is a superspeciality/emergency, around 3 Km away is JVC hospital which also has an emergency and another 5 Km away is soura hospital which is the biggest hospital in the area, again, has emergency wards. then we have some smaller, privately owned hospitals in the city itself so that i…

Well my mistake then.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by solar-ice »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #552
solar-ice wrote: post #537

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Ehh. Being kicked out of your home is being removed, even if it's perfectly legal. Fixed-term rental contracts are nearly entirely immoral imo. And while an accurate depiction of how this affects the people who were barely hanging on in the first place, there is a later step, where people who /have/ been renting all their lives in one area find themselves unable to continue to pay rent. You're not necessarily a homeo…

I think it's an interesting moral question: How much are you responsible for someone else's failure to plan ahead or foresee consequences? What are the consequences if we make you responsible for other people for their entire life just because you have some economic interaction with them? I think if you make renting someone an apartment a lifelong obligation to provide them with housing at approximately that cost the…

If we come at this from a perspective of "people deserve to have a home where they are safe", rather than from an economic perspective, the moral question is why on earth we decided to allow and protect private landlords who have an interest in exactly the opposite.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

solar-ice wrote: post #555
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #552

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's an interesting moral question: How much are you responsible for someone else's failure to plan ahead or foresee consequences? What are the consequences if we make you responsible for other people for their entire life just because you have some economic interaction with them? I think if you make renting someone an apartment a lifelong obligation to provide them with housing at approximately that cost the…

If we come at this from a perspective of "people deserve to have a home where they are safe", rather than from an economic perspective, the moral question is why on earth we decided to allow and protect private landlords who have an interest in exactly the opposite.

I completely agree with you that allowing private landlords is against our collective interests as a society. I think there would be details to work out but I would be very interested to see a city or state ban the renting of housing as an experiment.

As for thinking from an economic perspective, I think anything else is doomed to fail. Unless we think about how people will behave to maximize their own outcomes in some system we risk making things much worse (even if we do think it through we still risk making things much worse, but at least we will have more confidence that we are doing the right thing). Socialist states are a great example of this, they plow ahead on the moral high ground (at least in their moral system) and manage to make their citizens poorer.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by ParksNet »

throwaway787544 wrote: post #320
Gigachad wrote: post #112

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Just skimming the Wikipedia page for that place shows red flags all over the place. The population has been sharply declining since 1970 and the homicide rate is 56 per 100,000 vs the national average of 6.5. Clearly something is very wrong with the local government and population.

It's called poverty. Welcome to rural America. Went down the shitter when industry left and the rest of the country ignored it for decades, so now we have MAGA, drugs and crime, and a whole lotta cheap land.

> 2020 census Pine Bluff racial composition[56]

> White (non-Hispanic) 7,284 17.66%

> Black or African American (non-Hispanic) 31,744 76.95%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Bluff,_Arkansas#Demograph...

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by oceanplexian »

amoghs wrote: post #304
rlawson wrote: post #288

Let me give you the scoop on the Carolina's. I'm a developer living in the upstate of SC. I am an agnostic liberal which makes me a rarity but I was born here so I can go under the radar thanks to my deep melodious southern accent. Pros - Great climate 10 out of 12 months - Friendly people - Lots of outdoor activities - Beautiful beaches (Fripp Island and Kiawah especially) - Low cost housing (altho going up rapidly)…

Curious, do you actively hide your agnostic liberal views?

I mean, you change them. A big part of politics is contextual to where you live, and rural people have different problems than people in cities and suburbs.

You might still be a liberal but the type of liberal that lives in, say rural New England is vastly different than a California liberal. They are going to be much more practical. Demonizing cars like you might in a big city makes no sense in a place that will never get public transportation. Social services, especially things like public housing aren’t high on list of needs or wants. Public (K-12) education is a majority of tax dollars, for cultural reasons and a stigma against people who are uneducated. And so on. Different parts of the USA will have totally different value systems.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by Khelavaster »

neongodzilla wrote: post #550
jbirer wrote: post #408

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Plenty of poor towns without such homicide rates and robbery. You are taking the agency out of the hands of the people committing the crimes and handing it to the circumstances.

Homicides and crime still occur, they're just not well-documented. There has to be someone collecting that data and then reporting it. That costs money, so many places just don't. The absence of data != no activity.

Very true. Lots of police departments do their best to avoid reports, which keeps crime rates lower.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Post by Khelavaster »

MisterMower wrote: post #525
Gigachad wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just skimming the Wikipedia page for that place shows red flags all over the place. The population has been sharply declining since 1970 and the homicide rate is 56 per 100,000 vs the national average of 6.5. Clearly something is very wrong with the local government and population.

One homicide in a town of 1,800 people would give you a homicide rate of 56 per 100,000. I wouldn’t read into that statistic too much.

My thought as well. A homicide happened in this town, is all that statistic shows.
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