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8C/16T is probably Ryzen 5800 unless mobile uses a really confusing numbering scheme relative to desktop.
5900hx # of CPU Cores 8 # of Threads 16 Default TDP 45+W AMD really knocked it out the park with zen3
Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
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Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#552** "I don't want to use a Mac" ** "I've had these problems with Mac" Reasonable response: Cool, use what works for you. EDIT> Here are some suggestions that match your constraints. Annoying response 1: You should reconsider because Mac works great for me. Annoying response 2: Your problems aren't real problems. Annoying response 3: Let's live debug your problems in this thread to see if they're real problems. Guys. I…
Dude, operating system is one of the most fundamental things to consider when getting a dev machine. MacOS is literally useless for me, because I depend on the Linux kernel.
I think the way this conversation played out was "given how I use my device, is there an optimal device to buy?" A lot of the answers are, in turn, "why don't you use your device differently? having ignored your use cases and preferences, this is the device I'd recommend."
It might be a valid opinion to say "I don't use Linux and I enjoy using MacOS on Apple Silicon" but... it doesn't actually help the original poster, does it? So why post that at all?
I guess I could point out to the poster that I use Windows 10, and I built a desktop PC. It doesn't really meet any of their criteria (except #3 computing power), but... it works for me. So maybe they should change and be more like me!
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#553Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why Mac seems to attract so fanatic behavior? They seem to want to push everyone to use Mac, like religious fanatics try to push everyone to their "truth". I think this is a result of some marketing tactics Apple employed for decades, and it only pushes me away from this brand.
> Why Mac seems to attract so fanatic behavior? That is a good question. But ... > They seem to want to push everyone to use Mac, like religious fanatics try to push everyone to their "truth". As soon as you can adequately explain why there are people that are vehemently anti-Apple, you will have the answer to this question. You make it sound like it's only pro-Apple people that are fanatics.
Myself, I have been back and forth between PC (windows) and Apple several times. My priorities have changed over the years and I find PC's fit my requirements to a better extent since 2014. If Apple can bring back a notebook like HP ZBook or Dell Precision I would consider moving. Until then, I will live with the tradeoff's...
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#554Depends on the development. I am doing C development, with some Javascript thrown in for the client, quite comfortably on a laptop from 2008 (Core 2 Duo, 2GB of RAM, 320GB spinning rust HDD). I use WindowMaker, Firefox, Xterm, Vim, Git, Clang and GCC. from login Window to my first xterm opened in the project directory is around 500ms. My build (C only) is currently around 700ms. My editing is lag-free only as long as…
What cul option? Cursor line highlighting? I also recommend putting synmaxcol to something low, like 80-128.
yes.
> I also recommend putting synmaxcol to something low, like 80-128.
I'll keep that in mind if it slows down, but TBH it's working just fine right now.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's unlikely to be website memory leaks. If it was, on "memory flush" it wouldn't drop to about the same amount every time that fits comfortably in RAM, with no visible effect except the pause. This event does not unload tabs. With the numbers I'm seeing, think it's too risky to commit to 16GB non-upgradeable RAM for a laptop that must last many years to justify the cost. The ask HN author wants their sub-$2000 lapt…
Client memory usage has plateaued, now that everything is a web/cloud app.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#556Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why Mac seems to attract so fanatic behavior? They seem to want to push everyone to use Mac, like religious fanatics try to push everyone to their "truth". I think this is a result of some marketing tactics Apple employed for decades, and it only pushes me away from this brand.
They definitely market the "brand" leading to quasi-religious fervour. Of course, there's religious devotees to all 3. I throw my lot in with the Linux crowd because of freedom: freedom to use the software and not give a fuck about anyone's philosophy or religiousity. And the knowledge that it'll always be open source, I'll always "own" my software, etc...
I am not sure if you really are expected to give a fck about those things when using any of the major OSes. MacOS does not require you to swear allegiance to the cause of gender equality, even if the company behind it does indeed favour it.
Now if you want to participate in developing free software, for good or bad, those things are no longer immaterial, and if you have unpopular ideas about religion or philosophy you will sooner or later be ostracised and some hip code of conduct thingy will be the last thing you will see there.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#557This is probably an unpopular view, but I kind of use laptops as if they were terminals. If you want to spend $2k, I'd invest $1600 of that in a great desktop machine, and spend the other $400 on a cheap chromebook and tablets / keyboards / gizmos to log into it remotely.
Hi. OP here. I had also considered this but I don't have much space where I live (family etc etc). Maybe one day :)
I'm considering something like this for personal compute-intensive projects, or things that I want to continue running while my laptop is closed.
If your workload is really greater than a machine like that can handle, you should probably be considering some kind of cloud based compute option.
The only case I can think of where a really powerful local computer is required is the link stage of a huge monolithic binary, which by it's very nature is not parallelizable, but you'd never do that on the laptop anyways.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#558This is probably an unpopular view, but I kind of use laptops as if they were terminals. If you want to spend $2k, I'd invest $1600 of that in a great desktop machine, and spend the other $400 on a cheap chromebook and tablets / keyboards / gizmos to log into it remotely.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#559** "I don't want to use a Mac" ** "I've had these problems with Mac" Reasonable response: Cool, use what works for you. EDIT> Here are some suggestions that match your constraints. Annoying response 1: You should reconsider because Mac works great for me. Annoying response 2: Your problems aren't real problems. Annoying response 3: Let's live debug your problems in this thread to see if they're real problems. Guys. I…
> I mean, guys seriously. But we're serious. OP has created their own nonsensical boundaries with these constraints. Essentially the title is completely misleading apart from the 2K number. If OP is looking specifically for a linux-compatible machine they should have at least mentioned that in the title. It's no suprise at all that these types of answers are in this thread. I saw the title, came here to offer my thou…
Get a grip.
Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?
#560Maybe if the Lenovo X13s (ARM) is out and reviews are good, that might be an alternative.
When 13 is a bit small, you could go for Lenovo T14s...
But honestly, if you just wanna use this machine for development, a used Lenovo T480s with 24GB RAM and HiDPI display would be more than enough and costs about 500 bucks.