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Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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1. There will be a major earthquake in a major city. 2. More states in US will implement their own version of GDPR. 3. Tech Conference pass prices will continue to rise, reach a tipping point until it would be free to attend. 4. Queen Elizabeth II would pass away. 5. Food delivery companies would not be sustainable and they will have to pivot to something else. 6. Google will still be #1 in search, Amazon in shopping but might be forced by government to break up into smaller entities. 7. Alternatives to password would be used for authentication. 8. "Influencers" will lose value and people will start to not buy things if it was "influenced"

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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1. As a result of worsening urban/rural political divide, the inhabitants of cities will start to believe they have more in common with fellow urbanites from different nations than with ruralites from their own nation. Major cities will begin to engage in diplomacy with each other directly and, probing the limits of their sovereignty, engage in informal treaties and lightweight alliances (of an economic and social so…

Number 1 is a pretty interesting prediction. The indicator are definitely there, but it would be a huge change to global culture and doesn't seem doable in 10 years. Regarding 2, I have a couple of questions. First, what would cause the strong positive trend in Software salaries to sharply reverse in a period of a decade? That would be a dramatic collapse, I suspect unlike anything seen in an industry previous. Secon…

People who predict #2 ("sharp reversal of software developer salaries") are modeling software development jobs as an "inelastic" commodity.

Oil is the quintessential inelastic commodity, so I can break that one down as an analogy and that may make it easier to discuss whether it's appropriate to view "software development" as crude oil, or any similarly inelastic commodity.

A -- Everyone who currently consumes oil, needs oil, it's absolutely non-negotiable for their existence. (Is this true of software development?)

B -- When oil (gasoline/petrol) prices are high, people will complain loudly about it, but they will still pay whatever the asking price is. People almost never "figure out how to commute fewer miles" to save gas when oil prices are high. (A tiny bit maybe, but it's quite negligible).

C -- Oil is fungible. (This is admittedly not very true for software developers, which is why sub-specialties do get paid differently).

The A, B, C are true, then it follows that whenever there is even a VERY SLIGHT [actual] shortage of oil (0.5-1% less supply than demand at any price), then the price of oil has to rise very, very, very high to knock the 0.5%-1% of lowest-value use out of the bidding market. Maybe prices have to double just to get 1% lower use. Don't evaluate this statement for "software development", evaluate statements A, B, C, and D instead. If they are true, then this result necessarily follows.

D -- Most of the cost of supplying oil is in the form of capital expense, not marginal expense. The first barrel of oil from a well costs $200 million (SD: student loan/time) to get out. The second and all other barrels costs $20.00-70.00 to get out (SD: rent, food, gas, daycare).

E -- When oil prices are low, that does not induce additional demand. No one says "oh hey, gas prices are so low that I can move my home 30 miles farther from work later this month". (a tiny bit maybe for things like cheaper plane tickets, but I argue this is also fairly negligible against total market oil consumption)

F -- There is competition in the marketplace. No single buyer or seller can swing the price of the market. (Note: OPEC used to be able to double prices by adjusting their supply by a few percentage points - they would lose 2% of volume, but gain 50-100% in price. OPEC can no longer do this due to huge supply of american shale oil/fracking, so now OPEC can still double prices but it would require them to reduce volume MORE than 50% so they can't come out ahead on net revenue).

If D, E and F are true, then when there is an OVERSUPPLY of oil, the price drops to the highest marginal production price. There's always a desperate oil producer who spent $1 Billion drilling 5 wells and needs to pay to keep the lights on, debt payments going, etc. Now, instead of buyers bidding for oil barrels, each barrel is bidding for a buyer: "Please buy me, please buy me". The 0.5%-1% of oil barrels which CANNOT be priced lower than their competitors will not find a buyer - this can be a problem for companies/individuals who are desperately RELYING on this income (Venezuela needs it for all government spending, wildcatters/startups need it to keep the lights on, Chevron miiiight be a little more flexible)

Oil has a more efficient market than software development does, so the speed of change will be much faster. However, the effects should eventually be the same for any inelastic commodity.

I would personally argue that the supply of software engineering is fairly inelastic over 5-10 years. Even if every buyer was willing to pay $500,000 for a fresh graduate ML engineer, it wouldn't make more of them pop out of the woodwork THIS YEAR. It takes 5-10 years for the supply to adjust to the price.

If you believe that the demand for software engineering is also inelastic (If webdev engineers got paid $40,000/year, would a lot more companies actually be using them?) Then maybe the price won't fall as far as GP argues it will. However, if you think that everyone who WOULD hire software developers at bottom-barrel prices are just like the people who buy gasoline - while they complain loudly about high prices, but they are already paying whatever the asking price is -- then you believe that software engineering truly is inelastic.

In that case, salaries could fall to whatever salary makes 5-15% of the engineers leave the job market and go do something else.

However, that applies separately to each category of engineer. Whereas most barrels of oil are reasonably similar enough (location, composition) -- software engineers are not nearly as fungible for SOME uses. So instead of "one" market, there are multiple software engineer markets which may each have their own price forces. The highest-tier software engineers may see very little change in their price, while commodity engineers may feel lots of pain.

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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1.) As quantum computing advances, there will be at least one successful 51% attack on a major cryptocurrency. 2.) Tesla/SpaceX StarLink will become a major competitor in the ISP space. Most transmitted data throughout the world will touch a StarLink satellite. 3.) Financial downturn/semi-recession in mid-late decade primarily caused by excessive corporate stock buybacks artificially inflating stock prices. (Stock bu…

> 1.) As quantum computing advances, there will be at least one successful 51% attack on a major cryptocurrency.

Is there a quantum solution for one of the popular proof-of-work algorithms?

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

#555

Politically: * Rise of the EU as global superpower with European army taking over all functions of NATO except strategic defense (nuclear/space). All European countries except ex-USSR and England but including Scotland are members of EU. * Rise of Africa as a big consumer market. Green belt finished, major improvements in agriculture and infrastructure help to combat famine. Ethiopia replaces South Africa as economic…

>Significant progress in recycling and cleaning the oceans from plastic.

Bold. Hope that materialises

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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In no particular order:

1/ More jobs will be automated. You can imagine what kind of scary implications that might entail.

2/ Remote work will become more popular, but not ubiquitous.

3/ The Balkanization of the Internet will continue. Smaller governments will try to create their own Internet. Nothing good will come out of it.

4/ Phishing is still an unsolved problem.

5/ More people will care about their privacy on the web (still a minority though).

6/ Web pages will keep growing in size.

7/ Psychedelics will be decriminalized in some countries.

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

#557
1. The first nuclear fusion power plants are being built.

2. Universal Basic Income is being implemented across Europe.

3. Marijuana legalisation is commonplace in the west.

4. Steam will still dominate the PC gaming space.

5. Earth is not on track with regards to CO2 emissions.

6. Self driving cars/vans/lorries are common, replacing taxis and mutating the transportation sector.

7. Legislation will exist banning or requiring notice of deepfake videos, similar to current legislation around product placement/sponsorship.

8. Copyright laws will change to prevent early Disney cartoons from being public domain.

9. Streaming service industry become more fragmented as all studios create their own versions of Netflix. Other companies sell package deals of bundled services, effectively recreating all the problems of TV.

10. Instance of massive cyberwarfare/cyberterrorism hits a large NATO power, grinding the country to a halt.

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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the debt cycle will come to an end: inflation will pick up significantly, interest rates will be higher, there will be a great deleveraging for governments, companies and private individuals.

The US won't default, but it will devalue the dollar. US debt (both bonds and unfunded obligations from Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security) and the $1tn/y deficit will begin to matter.

Higher taxes, high unemployment, social unrest ensue. Passively invested money (through ETFs) will cause a stampede to leave the market. Volatility will be back. The long running bull markets in bonds and stocks will come to an end. Pension funds will lose a lot of money. Not necessarily a crash, but a long, painful decline.

- oil will hit $120+/barrel

- Facebook, Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft will come under a lot of anti-trust scrutiny

- Germany will have a chancellor from the Green Party

- AOC will become US president

- mobile internet will come from satellites in the US (Apple, SpaceX)

- Java, C and C++ are still going strong

- large layoffs in retail, automotive and banking

- VR will become mainstream

- hacks will begin to matter financially, unlike the incidents at Target, Sony at Equifax

- Deepl will be acquired by Microsoft

- Twitter will be acquired by Alphabet

- a move out of large cities: as remote work becomes more widespread (and fewer people work physically) people use more affordable living options outside of metropolitan areas. telemedicine, pharmaceutical eCommerce and faster internet connections will help. Shared satellite offices will take off as a result.

- the UI of HN will stay the same

- Gamestop and J.C. Penney will declare bankruptcy

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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Some mutually-exclusive points here, but I'm not expecting 100% accuracy anyway :P * The top 100 entertainment, tech, and consumable brands are all subsidiaries of Disney, Alphabet, or Nestle respectively * Owning things becomes a niche; rental / X-as-a-service becomes the default for everything from toothbrushes to pets. Kids born in 2030 might live to be 100 and never own anything. * 25% unemployment due to automat…

>people go back to paying for goods and services with money instead of personal information,

Downside of this potential knowledge gap between the haves and have nots

Re: Ask HN: A New Decade. Any Predictions?

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post #132

Here are mine: 1. Still no level 4/5 autonomous cars anywhere in sight. The promise of being "just around the corner" fizzles down and people just forget the hype. 2. Same with AI. The panacea hype dies down. No AGI at all. No major job losses due to AI automation. 3. Facebook (the SN) still exists but ages along with it's current user base. i.e it's the "old people's" SN. Facebook (the company) is still going strong…

I find it rather depressing that 5. (privacy) is the point with most consensus so far.
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