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Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#521
"In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer." -- Albert Camus

First of all, I'm sorry that you're suffering. It seems completely normal that you'd be struggling given all you've been through. I know what that sense of despair feels like, and how lonely it can be. I've been there, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I wouldn't say I've "turned my life around", but I'm 40 and in the last few years I've gone through a loss of my faith and a divorce (unrelated to each other), both of which were incredibly traumatic and really shook the foundations of my world. During the darkest days, it was really a crucible, a refining process. It was stripping away so much of what I had built my identity around.

The most transformative and healing things for me have been therapy, psychedelics, meditation, and divorce. I'm not recommending them all to everyone, but they changed me for the better.

And coming out the other side, I have such a better relationship with myself. I barely recognize myself from before. And as a result, I have a better relationship with my daughter, my friends, my family, my work, even with my ex-wife. I feel so much happier and more excited for the second half of my life than I ever have. I'm in a new relationship that feels open and healthy, and I'm planning to switch careers to be a therapist.

If you like to read, two foundational books that helped me:

- Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff

- Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life by James Hollis

Good luck, you can do this!

PS - my email is in my profile, please don't hesitate to reach out if you ever need someone to talk to. I was helped through this period by many other kind people, some of them strangers, and I'm always happy to pay it forward and lend an ear and some support to anyone who needs it. That goes for anyone reading this too!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#523

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One thing to note is that while Germany is much better if you need social services, it's much easier to move between classes in the US. It's very hard to move up in German society without the right social circles which are also much more exclusive than in the US or London. That said, while therapy is one thing(and very hard to find someone that actually helps you out of your misery instead of reinforcing it), I'd may…

Is therapy better in Germany? I live in Hamburg and the waiting list is more than a year for therapy. I was under the impression that it is somewhat faster in the US When I lived in the UK they wouldn’t offer me even a waiting list

Yes, you can easily find a meeting for the same week (maybe same day) in the US. The downside is the better ones are picky about taking insurance (i.e. you might have to pay 40% yourself and then submit the bill to your insurance company to get reimbursed the 60%) because most insurance companies pay really low rates for mental health. From what I've heard Aetna is the best.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#524
In Life, there is no participation trophy in the end (Dan Koe). The idea is to find a purpose in life. Your situation has a bit of similarity to mine.

I went back to in 2000 and eventually graduated with a Ph.D. in Social Welfare in 2016 (62). The Ph.D. was to fulfill my bucket list. Now that I am retired at 68, I was lost without a life purpose.

I have been searching all my life for my destiny, my major purpose of existence to no avail. (The Gem Goddess) a pack-a-card psychic helped me discover my mission yesterday. I know this sounds delusional; however, she stated that my life purpose is to have fun and to follow my curiosity wherever I desire to go. I will constantly change my “life mission” but eventually, I will achieve it before I pass.

Maybe your life purpose is similar to mine. My current curiosity to is to become a Creator on social media. Your MEng degree, work experience, life experiences would provide a wealth of knowledge for many individuals searching for solutions.

I found you (this thread) through Twitter via a post today. If you are interested in pursuing a social media presence, I suggest you research Dan Koe’s website. He has many free materials to get started, which is the current path of my journey.

I hope this post has helped guide you to a possible bright future! Leonard

Twitter: @LeonardSensui

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#525

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I would be much more convinced by a modern meta analysis The problem is that I’m a physicist so I see a wiki page with a bunch of quotes from people of all disciplines including a physicist who was famously a huge sceptic of psychiatry and I think of all the physics pages that have all these “opinions” that are wrong Very few of those quotes mention evidence of outcomes of psychoanalysis but only mention very specifi…

> I would be much more convinced by a modern meta analysis There are many modern meta analysis assessing the (in)efficacy of psychoanalysis and comparing it to other approaches, such as cognitive behavioral therapy (which is the gold standard nowadays) and other approaches, which back my arguments. I am not really interested in going more deeply about this, but I encourage you to research it, if you are interested. T…

You are no more knowledgeable than me. You just quoted the wiki page lol

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#526
In Life, there is no participation trophy in the end (Dan Koe). The idea is to find a purpose in life. Your situation has a bit of similarity to mine.

I went back to in 2000 and eventually graduated with a Ph.D. in Social Welfare in 2016 (62). The Ph.D. was to fulfill my bucket list. Now that I am retired at 68, I was lost without a life purpose.

I have been searching all my life for my destiny, my major purpose of existence to no avail. (The Gem Goddess) a pack-a-card psychic helped me discover my mission yesterday. I know this sounds delusional; however, she stated that my life purpose is to have fun and to follow my curiosity wherever I desire to go. I will constantly change my “life mission” but eventually, I will achieve it before I pass.

Maybe your life purpose is similar to mine. My current curiosity to is to become a Creator on social media. Your MEng degree, work experience, life experiences would provide a wealth of knowledge for many individuals searching for solutions.

I found you (this thread) through Twitter via a post today. If you are interested in pursuing a social media presence, I suggest you research Dan Koe’s website. He has many free materials to get started, which is the current path of my journey.

I hope this post has helped guide you to a possible bright future! Leonard

Twitter: @LeonardSensui

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#527
You and I want the same basic things. Among them food, sleep, and a home. Security and belonging. Love. The opportunity to contribute, be seen, and have meaning in our existence.

It is when I forget these truths that I start to believe that my unfulfilled needs are due to something outside of my own ability to influence. A bitterness arises towards you who have these things and I construct stories about how you are doing something wrong or that I am superior to you simply because I have the strength to withstand not having those needs met.

Beneath the shell, the facade, is a simpler but more difficult to digest truth. That my own need goes unfulfilled and I am angry about it.

And here I find a self-destructive behavior. You have a desire to help me get or create what I need in my life. But my pride and fear of being vulnerable gets in the way. And underneath it, the shame of being a burden.

With force I push back all attempts at kindness and care. I cling to the shell of bitterness and anger.

In this moment I try to ask myself:

    Can I acknowledge to myself that there is something I can change that could change everything for me?
    Can you actually WANT to share without a hidden agenda?
    Can I let go of my pride a little, just enough to receive the help?
Can I be humble, have enough self-esteem to believe in my own worth. To be worthy of the care extended to me by my fellow human? Do I dare believe in the inherent goodness of others actually wanting to do something for my sake?

I let go of the need to be alone I let go of the need to increase my pride through criticizing others and being bitter towards them I accept the basic goodness of my fellow humans, even if I feel betrayed by them I let go of self-criticism and accept that I too am fundamentally worthy of love

I create the opportunity for meaningful and loving interactions to exist in my reality

The world has enough villains. I let go of my bitterness, because I have understood that it deeply reflects my own shame and guilt. With that, I forgive myself for my self-justification and judgment of others.

I choose to live in a world where I can be vulnerable and open to receiving love and care. A world where I can give love and care to others without reservation.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#528

No offense to the reply, but “need a therapist” is a very American response and a bit of a cop out. OP, I’ve seen many people turn around after aged 40, including a friend who got married for the first time at aged 58. She’s energetic and attractive and incidentally also turned her life around after 40. My two pennies would suggest you throw the past expectations out the window, determine where your passions lie, and…

Its better than the OP seeks help from someone trained in this domain rather than getting an anecdotal therapy session from these comments.

Getting professional help shouldn't be stigmatized as a cop out.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would be much more convinced by a modern meta analysis There are many modern meta analysis assessing the (in)efficacy of psychoanalysis and comparing it to other approaches, such as cognitive behavioral therapy (which is the gold standard nowadays) and other approaches, which back my arguments. I am not really interested in going more deeply about this, but I encourage you to research it, if you are interested. T…

You are no more knowledgeable than me. You just quoted the wiki page lol

I quoted the wiki page because the parent poster requested citations.

It has no relevance with regards to my knowledge.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#530
I did it in my mid-to-late 30s. At that point, I had very little going for me. Now, I'm married, have a happy kid, have a decent job, and have just bought a house.

It can definitely be done; you just need to be patient, love yourself, and to want it enough to put in the work.

"First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do." - Epictetus

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