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Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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https://frame.work ?

Gave it some thought a while ago! I'm still struggling with the customs end of getting one though. Uruguay where I now live isn't exactly amazing at managing electronic imports, although if one ever showed up on Amazon I'd be jumping on that right away as there are companies that helps make this process easier over here.

Fellow "charrúa" here :)

Greetings ...

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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1. Full size keyboard with a numpad. If I can't type on it then I won't buy it. 2. 1080p internal display. I won't buy it if the internal screen resolution isn't at least 1080p. 3. Works with Linux. That's a dealbreaker if I can't put Linux on it. 4. Discrete GPU that can be enabled/disabled without rebooting. Not for games, though that's a bonus. I write software that uses GPU acceleration and I need to test it in t…

I’d add that for most people, you should go higher than 1080p regardless of screen size. UHD/4k/Retina are all a huge improvement just when looking at text and it’s hard to go back.

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> if I'm missing on any new developments since 2015 Yes, you missed something huge. Apple Silicon M1 or nothing. It's just too good. Low power consumption allows the laptop to actually be used as a laptop. The power use-to-performance ratio is unmatched by anything on the market. Apple is breaking us free from decades of stagnation on the hardware front. Nothing else on the market comes close. I expect this to change…

Is ARM really the reason the M1 is so much better than the current x86 CPUs? If you have a look at the competition (Qualcomm), it sounds to me that it's Apple expertise at designing a SoC and using a more advanced node that makes it such a good CPU, not really the architecture. Said another way, I highly doubt we will see a non-Apple ARM CPU outclass the x86 competition in such a way anytime soon, so saying "never x8…

From listening to interviews of Apple tech folks, they also have done a lot of optimization of their CPUs based on calls frequently used by Mac OS. I don’t recall specific examples but the fact that they can control both the hardware and software allows them to profile and tune the system as a whole.

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OP here: so, from the amount of comments I surmise that my like-minded crowd is either not hanging around here no more, or aren't really numerous. Thanks everyone for participating in this discussion, I appreciate you all.

UPDATE: this seems to have blown up a bit.

Combing through once again, thanks everyone.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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Windows wasn't good at this in the past either. Didn't they used to have sleep, hibernate and a load of other options too?

Just sleep/hibernate/restart/shut down, as far as I can remember? - sleep vs hibernate being a distinction you want, in my view, as the battery drain/restart time behaviours are different. I'm sure I don't need to explain why separate restart and shut down options are a good idea. (Never liked not having the sleep/hibernate choice on macOS. I know better than the computer what my upcoming plans are!)

Windows ha(s/d) suspend/sleep/hibernate/restart/shutdown.

Sleep was a suspend/hibernate hybrid that allowed fast restarts if you still had power, but would restore from disk hibernate-style if you ran out of power while suspended.

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That it doesn't get in the way of my work and life. Let me phrase it this way: A laptop is good when i don't have to think about it. Super quiet, exceptional battery performance, lightweight, sturdy, excellent design, super fast, doesn't crash, doesn't reboot when it wants, does what it should do when i close the lid and never lets me down. Basically the M1, the first laptop that does fit my requirements. I like Linu…

I like Linux, but i have to be honest: Windows/Linux laptops can't compete in 2021 with the Apple M1. Maybe some day they will catch up.

Mostly because all the flagship laptops are stubbornly (or rather being strong-armed into) sticking with Intel.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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Agreed. I hate that M1 is so good. I got an M1 macbook pro when my older laptop broke and I needed to temporarily deal with some iOS work. I bought it thinking I would regret it and have to replace it with another machine especially being used to 15inch devices. But it turned out to be such a great experience using this device without ever worrying about charging and rosetta2 worked so much better than expected. I ha…

What do you feel like you're missing in userspace?

Most of the important ones like package managers, containers, not calling home etc are mentioned by the others. So I will mention things I don't think are discussed enough by linux switchers.

The one I didn't think I would yearn for but am really reminded of everyday are- desktop environments and window managers. My friends couldn't stop praising the UX but even after a long time trying to get used to it I still am annoyed by the application switching keyboard shortcuts, lack of ability to set system wide shortcuts for launching basic things like terminal. I won't talk about the lack of some cli applications I loved because I expected that when I moved(and it is better than I thought). I have tried iterm2, hyperswitch, rectangle. I understand that different systems have different behaviours and I can't expect it to behave the same but I have observed my friends, and others and the level of keyboard driven userflow I can achieve even in something like windows just seems worse here. It's not that it isn't possible but rather the behaviour has subtle quirks that I can't always rely on it. And lastly animations and latency. Even after turning all animations, it just is slow. I was used to having applications open before my keyboard would even leave the shortcut key and here I find myself waiting for things to start. I thought I was being nitpicky until I had to use my 2014 model haswell laptop for something and it just was such a breeze compared to the provenly faster processor and storage of m1. What's everyone's experience like?

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