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Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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I founded my last company, AppNexus, in 2007, and we were out trying to raise our series A round in 2008 just as the world was falling apart. I pitched 40+ VCs, got nowhere, and was about to sell the company when we finally got a term sheet from Venrock and were able to keep going. By having the funding to survive the crisis, we built the company over a 10-year bull market, and ended up selling to AT&T for $1.6 billi…

What say you to this, Bokelley?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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I already posted my experience from 2008 somewhere else for anyone concerned about a recession. No two crises are equal, but might give you some pointers.

My personal perception of the 2008 wreck is the following: a some people got royally screwed, many people got screwed, some people didn't feel a difference, and a few people actually thrive. I was in the second category.

First, my company imposed a hiring freeze. This included both hiring new people or renovating temporary contracts. Then, they relied in natural attrition to shed people. Since many people were contractors, those were the first ones to let go. When that wasn't enough, they started laying off full time employees.

I was lucky since my team was left mostly untouched, while other teams were dismissed entirely. We did get our bonuses cancelled and salary frozen for a few years, however. That, coupled to higher taxes and inflation, means that my income went down over the years, but at least I had a job.

My biggest takeaway is that YMMV (duh!). Many people are concerned now about losing their jobs. In my opinion, companies (particularly large and stable ones) will rely on hiring freezes and attrition to curb their numbers. If it comes down to it, you are more likely to see teams being fired wholesale rather than each team bleeding a bit.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

#524
Not talking about today's situation, but I've been laid off during the crisis in 2008. I was in a small startup that cut its workforce in half (because VCs wanted it to stay afloat longer with the same amount of money). Many other tech companies did massive layoffs.

There was still plenty of jobs in companies who were not affected by the crisis as much and used the opportunity to recruit talent that is very hard to attract in normal time.

So if you're in tech, it's unlikely that the job market will dry up to the point it becomes hard to find a job.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

#525
anyone without a job here right now: does somebody have a zulip, discourse, slack whatever, where we can all hang out? I think it would be generally a cool concept to have a HN-job-seekers chat site where smart people can network. People in-need might be able to help each other with ideas and / or work together on cool side projects while also looking, or maybe just learning cool concepts from each other ...

Anything really that allows people to focus on solving this problem for longer than the life-time of a HN post being on the FP. I think it might also be good for mental-health. E.g it seems there are lot of us here who are struggling with ageism, discrimination or for other reasons finding a job/gig so this could be a better alternative than refreshing twitter and focus on helping each other?

Burnout is also a real kicker. I went through this in 2013 and it had cascading effects on other areas of my life that caused an absolute meltdown. It took me 3 years to get back on my feet and after 5 years I could still notice that the experience changed me. I'm OK now but I'd imagine having a place where things like these could be discussed in an environment with intelligent people would have helped. I really haven't thought this through but just want to put this out there. Maybe should start a new Ask HN, idk

How this could work is post your nick that is used on the site also in the HN about profile as proof. Or make it open to others too idk, haven't really thought it through lol.

Anyone interested in this?

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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This is probably a long shot - and I'm sure you'll see quite a few posts like this over the coming weeks - but I'm going to swallow my pride and ask nonetheless. I've been a data entry clerk for the past twenty years, working for a major bookmaker in Northern Ireland. With the coronavirus pandemic hitting recently, many businesses have decided to lay off large numbers of staff. I've just become one of the unfortunate…

hi there, Fellow NI resident here I can recommend joining the NI tech slack if you want, there's a jobs channel and plenty of other people who'd be willing to give you advice. https://nitech.herokuapp.com all the best in the coming weeks and months for both you and your family

Hi Reid.

Already on it, thanks. Posted something in freelance and jobs channels yesterday, going to try again today.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

#527
My s.o. just got a dev role in January, first job she hopes to keep, first job in the west, to start 2 March. We moved across the country for it. A few other hires were due to start a bit later in the month.

I was a bit nervous looking for a place to live in an incipient pandemic (cases were already reported in the wild here at that time).

But from the coronavirus, the two hires due to start later in the month got canceled - only my s.o. got taken on. I really hope they hadn't quit jobs in far off lands to relocate :/

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But in February, there wasn't any sign of an economic downturn. Everyone was enjoying the bull market. First: I’m super sorry about what you’re going through and I hope things work out with your new employer. Second: I worry that “nobody could have known” will be the narrative. A very large portion of my circles was aware that COVID was about to explode and that the prevention measures would either drastically slow…

> A very large portion of my circles was aware that COVID was about to explode (...) Your circles seem to be the exception then. There are a lot of factors that affect personal perception of such matters, like proximity to inflicted areas, professional background (ex: medical), experiencing similar events in the past, etc. In hindsight it seems obvious that the world wasn't paying attention. But it took until Februar…

A lot of this seems to be "I told you so". And yet, I have a hard time believing anybody could have foreseen an almost complete shutdown of the global economy over this. A lot of the "we saw that coming" can be boiled down to "it will be bad".

But even if you saw it coming, how does this help now? Right, it doesn't.

That someone's circles saw it coming doesn't help. Wht you can do now helps. Unfortunately a lot of these folks are lacking in that department IMHO.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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post #391

All: a user emailed with the brilliant suggestion that HN do a "Who Is Hiring Right Now?" thread. We'll do that soon; maybe tomorrow. This will specifically be for jobs that are ready to hire, and able to onboard, quickly. If any of you have suggestions for how to make this most helpful under current conditions, please share them. I'll check this thread later tonight.

This could drive a lot of interest. I just wanted to highlight the importance of mentioning the geographical location of where the employer will be recruiting from (remote global, remote US, remote EU, etc.), because I’ve seen many companies ignore this detail and it’s a complete waste of time to write personalized résumés and letters of application, only to be told that they can’t hire outside the USA, despite the fact that I’ve incorporated myself as the equivalent of an LLC in order to make it easier for them to complete the process.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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At the beginning of the year, I decided it was time to find a new job after 10 years with my employer. I spent February doing interview prep and conducting interviews. Back then, the COVID-19 was mostly limited to China, markets and governments weren't terribly concerned about COVID-19. I accept a job offer, put in my two weeks notice, and my last day at was last Friday. Hardly anyone was seriously concerned about CO…

I have been laid off just before 2015 and I haven't found any stable work since then. I have been under-employed for a long while before the outbreak, and I don't even know what new change-ups in job hunting I should be doing now. For a long time, many people have said that my years of experience make me valuable so that I should have gotten offers very quickly, but the reality hasn't shown that. Heck, even the found…

My algorithm:

1) Decide which software engineering related role you want to work on (e.g. web frontends)

2) Enumerate the top skills that are relevant to that role by visiting job postings in companies you would like to work for. e.g.: React.

3) Enumerate the subset of those skills that you have. Those are your strenghts. Work in acquiring the skills you do not yet have. Those are your weaknesses (for now).

4) Visit Linkedin profiles for random employed people in such roles in various companies you would like to work for. Compare that to your own Linkedin profile.

5) In your profile, emphasize your strengths, deemphasize your weaknesses, while working on them in your spare time. And most importantly, list your skills using the skills feature. Recruiters use that to find people.

Personally I think you should leave out all mentions to "looking for a job" and such. That is a red flag. You do not want to tell recruiters that your skills are in low demand.

Also try to keep your job descriptions consistent and relevant to your target role. Rather than "role 1/role 2/role 3", just pick the most favorable/relevant description for role and stick with that.

It usually takes me 1 month to find a job.

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