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Re: Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the new normal?

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> Capture traffic and sue the f outta everything they do that‘s not covered by a contract. Whatever the app they would ask you to install would do probably is going to be allowed by its EULA (and I bet the EULA is also going to prohibit you from analyzing the app and whatever it does/communicates) and chances are you don't read it. And even if you do you most probably agree because you know all EULAs are brutal and t…

EULA is between the user and the vendor of the software, it isn't a agreement between the user and the users employer. Capturing traffic like that runs afoul of hacking laws.

The employer can just give you an executable and say you must install it. The executable would show you an EULA and require you to accept it.

Re: Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the new normal?

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I'm going to piggyback on your comment because it's one of the more reasonable and informed takes here. I'm currently in the middle of our company's first evaluation window for SOC2 Type 2. I'm not familiar with Drata, but at a surface-level, it sounds pretty similar to Vanta, who we use. OP says "The motivation is that my client badly want a SOC 2 certification", which sounds about right. If anyone isn't familiar wi…

This is a great comment. But I'm going to push back on your last paragraph, because it is not completely reasonable for a contractor to say "I'll supply screenshots instead of running this agent". Screenshots work for your team because you set up and documented a process for managing them, and then taught your auditors about it. This contractor's client might not --- probably didn't! -- do that work. It may be logist…

> Screenshots work for your team because you set up and documented a process for managing them, and then taught your auditors about it.

Not really. We had no process before talking to the auditors. We told them that we didn't want to require employees to install the Vanta agent (for reasons mentioned) and asked them what they recommended. They said that screenshots would be fine. On a lot of these SOC2 things, I think people should just talk to their auditors early in the process and get a sense of what they are looking for and care about. There are some standards, but all of them are going to have a slightly different focus and the ones we've worked with have all been pretty reasonable about understanding the particulars of our company and what exceptions make sense for us.

> For what it's worth: a nit I like to pick with Vanta is that it sets a very ambitious bar for what a company should be doing with respect to IT security, where SOC2 does no such thing. I worry that things like Vanta lead teams into doing all sorts of stuff that might not be a fit, and certainly isn't required to pass a Big 4 SOC2 audit. What was your experience there?

I can't say it's really been a problem for us. Vanta and our auditors have both been pretty clear that it's not 100% necessary to have all tests passing in Vanta in order to get our SOC2 (again, it's helpful to just talk to your auditors). We run entirely on the Cloud (no physical offices or data centers) and honestly, some minimal GCP/AWS best practices and modern deployment approaches (protected branches, code reviews, standardized CI/CD) means that you're already passing about 90% of Vanta's tests on those things. We had to do a few silly things like change our resource labelling conventions to match Vanta's but otherwise nothing felt terribly burdensome or like security overkill.

Re: Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the new normal?

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If you run `dmidecode` inside a Linux VM running (on QEMU), do the returned strings not show extremely obvious VM-only things? When doing so on VMware or KVM, things are extremely obvious. I haven't tried just plain QEMU though. :)

With QEMU you can configure that and make it say whatever you want ( which is how you can lie to an Nvidia card).

Cool. That's definitely useful then. :)

Re: Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the new normal?

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You are 100% correct. Source: I am the Drata CISO

> You are 100% correct. > Source: I am the Drata CISO May be you should go over your user agreement documents and: 1) Make sure that all relevant information is available, so a user can make an informed decision. 2) Distinguish between the user roles, and have different agreements for the different roles. One role is your customer. A second role is the employee of your customer. A third role is the contractor for you…

it sounds like you’re trolling tbh
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