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Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

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WARNING: Do not seek any advice from anonymous people on the web about depression, ever, you're seeing a therapist, that's a good start, If you're not satisfied with your current doctor, go see another one.

I dunno, nine out of ten appear to be telling him/her to go see professionals. Seems like good advice to me.

Here maybe, however you don't know if that person posted other messages on other forums. This is a general advice and the ONLY one people should be giving him. Saying anything else might put him in danger.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#53
Take the meds, Take the meds ........

Well that's what people (specialist or not) told me.

But that were my worse mistake

Anti depressants may not be too bad (they are said to even increase gray matter) but a year ago, I was prescribed antipsychotics by injections (because I had some paranoia against cigarette smoke) and those have been the worse thing I had to live, basically it deconnects your brain. So be happy and think there's worse, much worse elsewhere. Also sports helps, do 40 minutes of bike everyday (like going to work by bike), this must be the best medicine

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#55
Hey man, thanks for sharing! A lot of us have battled with depression at various points so you're in good company.

Depression used to be an annual appearance for me, like allergy season, and even when I knew I would become depressed and could feel it happening, one little change in attitude let me take advantage of my depression and harnass its energy instead of feeling like a tidal wave crashed over me that I was helpless to hold back.

When I'm not depressed, some things like getting out of bed or getting out of the house whiles its still light out come easily. When I'm depressed making it out of the house at all is an achievement in itself.

The thing that flipped it around for me was one time while I was depressed I was also job hunting. Normally, I get anxious and nervous when applying, and rejection often stings. But when I'm depressed I'm just numb to that. I don't care, and tbe sting of rejection bounces off me.

So now I split things between "This works better when I'm not depressed" and "Save this for when I feel depressed". When I feel myself slipping into it I'm not afraid or disappointed anymore, I think "oh, I unexpectedly have temporary thick-skin super powers" and think through all the things that need doing that non-depressed me was scared of that depressed-me can get through no problem.

That shift was like a surfboard that let me ride that tidal wave and navigate until the season of dspression was over.

Instead of giving voice to your fears, doubts, and failures - let depression be a shield allowing you to fearlessly embark on edifying activities that will make life for future-you better! This depression WONT last forever, capitalize on the time you have left and pretty soon you'll find yourself not-depressdd and it will go back to the old routine!

Surfs up! See you on the beach :)

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#56
See a professional and do what they say. It can take years to get sorted out, so don't expect it to work quickly.

In the meanwhile, exercise routinely, get outside and get sunlight, force yourself to hangout with people and do activities. Find thing you like to do that aren't your day-to-day life and do them and enjoy them. Build positive feedback loops in your life so you always have things to look forward to.

There's no quick solution, only retraining yourself to understand how valuable and important you are to your world.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#57
I've posted this elsewhere before. I hope it helps.

The truth is there are no real fixes in our lives. Everything gets worn down. This is pretty much a central concept in many philosophies and religions through the ages. Fighting burn out, re-energizing, being unsatisfied for while, being satisfied for a while, etc is just going to happen to you. Work with it. But don't be short sighted to think "Oh its my career, if I was instead $some_other_job_youll_hate, things would be perfect."

Personally, I follow a lifestyle of relatively low materialism and focus on engaging experiences instead of chasing products or salaries. This mostly translates into traveling instead of buying. There's no way to win this game, you can only occasionally step off it. I also find side creative side projects help as they take my mind off work and remove work from the "fulfillment" side of my life. Who cares about bullshit at work when I have a robot to build at home or when Im trying to finish the game I'm writing or the basement remodeling I'm planning.

I also have a lot of success with meditation, being slightly more compassionate and tolerant (even of things I know are wrong), and living a slower paced/low drama life. I try to think about the right things, not the default things. I try to not let the world get to me. I'm not often good at it, but at least I'm cognizant of trying. DFW talks a bit about this here if you're interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI

I found bringing these attitudes into my work life helped a lot. Its hard to explain, but I think when you get your ducks in a row in a general they naturally get in a row at work as well.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#58
post #26

Take some hallucinogenic drugs (look them up on erowid first). Write some poetry. Make some art. Stay up late. Get drunk. Purge your demons. Call your parents, call your best friend, vent. If you like to be alone be alone. If you like people go find some people. Watch some art films. Chain smoke cigarettes. Go for a walk. Play hooky from work. Go thrift shopping and buy yourself a new outfit. Plot and scheme on thing…

I get that you're trying to be edgy, but none of those are full-on substitutes for the the results of evidence-backed medical trials. They are great in conjunction with standard pharmacological and therapeutic approaches, but might end up pushing someone already on the brink further into the abyss of depression. They might not have good familial relationships or friends to fall back on, or they might have issues with…

I feel like his point was that OP needs to make an effort to find something that works and that no amount of online advice will likely help.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#59

There is a lot of scientific research around this. I'd suggest three natural things. A quality fish oil, exercise, and do more social activities. Sources: http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/Exercise-and-Depressi... - http://mason.gmu.edu/~sslayden/curr-chem/fish-oil/fishoil-wp...

Here's a meta analysis that says:

http://www.cochrane.org/CD004366/DEPRESSN_exercise-for-depre...

> When only high-quality trials were included, exercise had only a small effect on mood that was not statistically significant.

> Exercise is moderately more effective than no therapy for reducing symptoms of depression.

> [...] The reviewers also note that when only high-quality studies were included, the difference between exercise and no therapy is less conclusive.

Re: Ask HN: How to cope with depression

#60
post #27

WARNING: Do not seek any advice from anonymous people on the web about depression, ever, you're seeing a therapist, that's a good start, If you're not satisfied with your current doctor, go see another one.

I don't know why seeking a connection even with anonymous people online is necessarily bad. There are a lot of people who have struggled with depression, sometimes hearing from people dealing with the same struggles can help.

> I don't know why seeking a connection even with anonymous people online is necessarily bad.

How many of these people are professionals? depression IS a mental illness, and must receive professional care, not random opinions by people who did not make a proper diagnosis of that person's condition. Finally listening to someone is different from advising him about how to get better. I'm all for listening but not for people playing therapists.

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