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Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#52

Tomorrow we launch https://grasswire.com to the public. It's in private beta now, but it's a newsroom for the internet. Basically a hacker news full of news junkies and reporters. They ruthlessly curate and fact check the world's most important news. The end result is a daily (or weekly) email that gets sent out. It's digestible in thirty seconds, contains only important news, and has been fact checked by thousands o…

That's interesting. I've thought of a similar project (except with submitting articles written by readers). I have thought a great deal about how to maintain content diversity while making use of the collective effort of people to pick content.

How (if at all) do you ensure that your platform won't become a hostile, self-preserving, lowest common denominator mind/meat ball? (E.g. like HN.)

From my experience controversial views require a strong form of protection from the violent inertia of the masses, because otherwise sharing individual ideas becomes numbingly difficult.

On the other hand, a single party can not be allowed to force their minority view onto the the common mass. E.g. discourage brute forcing a view.

I have witnessed various forms of view-exchange-models:

* "mostly unguided": The 4chan/b model. Pros include shelter from censorship and diverse views, cons are brute forcing views onto the forum is easy.

* "strictly moderated": E.g. wikipedia or stackoverflow. Won't talk much about these, in case of wikipedia it makes sense, but generally for a discussion platform this is the worst case as it defeats the whole purpose.

* "naive (or incompetent) governing": E.g. HN, turn view visibility into popularity contest for instance. Many ways of getting it wrong, each with different motivations and results but generally: Turns community against itself, creates a hostile and violent environment, monoculture, perpetual dishonesty. This is another really bad approach. I believe it was popularized because it seems to work as long as only your best friends use the platform. Ergo the "community degraded" excuse.

* "sensible governing": ???. Find good ways to compile a fairly selected subset of a possibly large amount of views to be able to be consumed by a single person.

I had one idea that I quite liked: Have a pool of volunteering peers for review. Randomly divide incoming submissions among pool for review. E.g. send a submission to a random subset of reviewers. I think the smaller the subset the better. E.g. if you have 128 peers, send it to three random peers. If any one of those peers "likes" the submission, include it in the "newspaper". Possibly send it to more people for review to establish prominence in the newspaper.

Ideals I wanted to implement: Minority views shouldn't have to compete with a horde of people who like cat pictures. It should be difficult to game the system. The process should be transparent, it is good to know that "everybody found X important and somebody found Y important".

One final note:

> "Introducing the Internet's missing newsroom"

This discourages me a ton. Please don't over impose yourself a the missing link or your only savior. The most you can hope for is to be a viable addition to my sources. If you don't realize that then you are incompetent to be a viable source.

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#53

For anybody who reads French, I recommend http://www.courrierinternational.com/ . They select and translate articles from the world press on whatever are the most important issues. So you'll get Greek discussions of Syriza, Ukrainian and Russian comment on Donbass, etc. I've not found anything as good in English, but presumably it's out there somewhere. Otherwise, I find it useful to read through archives. The Guardi…

Please everyone who thinks Spiegel is a decent magazine. It's not. Any German with a bit of an education can only detest the journalistic "quality" of Der Spiegel. It's a propaganda outlet, on the same level as Deutsche Welle, Russia Today or even boulevard/tabloid noise like Bild and Express.

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#54
post #47

I read IRIN, Trust.org, and reliefweb. http://irinnews.org/ http://www.trust.org/humanitarian/ http://reliefweb.int/ Edit: curious that this got downvoted so rapidly when OP specifically mentions wanting to keep track of things like wars, which these sites all cover, while discarding flavor-of-the-week scandals, which again these sites avoid.

Because HN is the worst possible place to have an exchange of views. Seems like a sensible selection of news sources to me.

May I add: The Intercept is nice.

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

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Perhaps it's better to just not keep up with the news too much. From what I understand the world is safer today than it has ever been, especially in the Western world. And most news is bad news anyway - you won't feel much happier knowing about it. Maybe it's better to focus on what's important and what you have some influence over, like the well-being of your family and friends, self improvement and your future goal…

"News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier"

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rol...

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#56
post #37

News is an entertainment show. News editors edit actual events into an engaging narrative in the same way that reality TV shows edit the events that occur in their show's domain into a narrative. There is plenty of raw material to work with. On any given day there are wars, injustices, political in-fighting, dishonest or fraudulent behaviour, and amusing stories about dogs on skateboards (or whatever). They're just e…

no one lives in a cave here. It's close to impossible to keep away from the noise. After all sharing news is being part of the human community. You don't want to cut yourself from it.

However you don't want to get overwhelmed and there's a lot of sensationalist journalism out there that seeks to stimulate your reptilian brain. On the other hand theres' also good (aka rational/analytical) journalism that helps making a sane narrative out of it without getting you stuck in the rabbit hole.

Stay close to those whatever side of the political spectrum you find yourself and you'll save a lot of time.

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#57
I have subscribed to Guardian Weekly, it's... OK. I get easily irritated by incompetent reporters so the fact that I don't regret getting the subscription says a lot of good things about the general quality of the Guardian. As an anecdote: The coverage of a local event (Bonn, Germany) by the Guardian was OK. Not perfect, but not a complete outrage either. And that's a good thing because e.g. the local paper "Generalanzeiger" usually fumbles even the local news in a way so horrific its.... uargh.

I have found http://everything2.com/ to be an amazing source of general thought food.

Re: Ask HN: How do you curate and keep up with general news?

#58
Quartz daily brief are great! http://qz.com/daily-brief/ I got news every morning, check the headlines while on commute. News are not too much political, economical, etc, just kind of most important bits. News about Tesla and SpaceX - check. Google, FB and startups - check. Some interesting bits - check. Word in general - check, check, check.
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