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Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

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I have totally given up hope on classifying all the interesting things I find on the web each day, so I use an uncategorized save all strategy. I save all opened and downloaded files (mostly PDFs) to ~/Desktop/ and I also bookmark things there (by dragging the URL icon onto the desktop). After a few weeks the desktop becomes a complete mess, so I use a script[1] that puts files into subfolders (by extension), and the…

I like this idea since it solves the issue of easily persisting things you may want to keep around, but wouldn't it limit the types of things you can persist (e.g. can you easily persist ideas/snippets this way)?

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

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Still figuring this out - I have DevonThink to collect/catalog but I find that I don't often get in there to search, so that information basically rots. Same with my web bookmarks, many are several years old. As time goes on I find that information is basically useless unless I either internalize or act on it. So I tend to use information to adjust either my anki decks or my goal maps, and then I try to deliberately…

I never used DevonThink, can you tell me what are the your personal biggest pros and cons of this program? Also, what do you think is the biggest problem of this/similar systems? I can sympathize with bookmarks problems, not only they rot, but after few years there is a lot of 404 (pinboard provides archiving bookmarks but that is a paid service). Do you have a lot of Anki decks of just a single "random things from t…

I use DevonThink as mostly just a clipping/storage app, but it has tons of utility beyond that - seems a lot of grad students use it for managing resources they later write papers from. I chose it over Evernote because it does more. The main downside of it is that it doesn't yet have a good mobile syncing solution, even though they've been working on it for years now. But it has a ton of UI customizability for searching and browsing, and search works well too.

The main problems with all these systems are just that we use them to attempt to augment our own intelligence/utility based off of some concept of who we are aiming to be in the future, and then as things change for us personally, our aborted plans lead to a lot of rot that doesn't clear itself away automatically. So only some small percentage of what we collect ends up relevant.

I have a lot of individual Anki decks, which isn't recommended. But I create a filter deck that rebuilds from the other decks every day and properly randomizes the cards, and only study from that. I do it every day except when I forget and then I catch up later. My cards are mostly along the lines of music, logic, math, stats, programming, and rational thinking.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#53

1. Live simply. As I've gotten older I've found more and more value in not having too many things going on. Gradually I'm sleeping better, eating better, reducing stress, and getting more exercise, all of which is important for the next thing: 2. Memorize as much as I can. It's an exercise; I memorize phone numbers, schedules, people's names, trivia, all kinds of stuff. I've never found anything that matches the flex…

What system and/or application(s) do you use to help you remember things?

I don't really have a system -- or anything that would make worthwhile reading.

I just practice, a lot. I exercise my brain like a power lifter exercises their body.

For instance, I know the names and some basic information of everyone at the bank branch I frequent. I go up, say, "Hi ____, how're the kids, did you have a good time last weekend?" It's nice for them and a little mental workout for me.

When I'm out and about, I briefly memorize random things: movie showtimes, things I heard on the radio and want to look up, prices of things in the store (so I can price-compare later; e.g. I know Safeway has my cereal for $3.99/box with the club card discount, which is slightly better than regular price but not as good as the occasional 2-for-$4.99 sale at Raley's). I try to really look at the people around me and memorize different facial features and notice different things about them, and if I'm not distracted, then I try to flip through them all mentally when I get in the car. (But this also makes big crowds more overwhelming.)

I play Go. I have a small local club with some friends, and we play religiously once a week, and I play or study more often in my spare time. It's a game where you can improve quite a lot by visualizing the game board several moves in advance, and the game board can get pretty complicated. It's a really good workout for my working memory.

When I'm reading, I try to memorize most of the previous paragraph immediately, memorize the bullet points of the previous page when I get to the next page, and the next day I try to remember the gist of what I read. If I can't, I go back and re-read it until it gels.

Stuff like that. It all sounds silly written out, and like a lot of work, but it's second-nature now. I just do it automatically.

Exercising memory is kind of a two-part process. You have to be able to put things in your brain (typically this just means practicing paying attention), and you have to be able to recall them later. I think the recall part might be the bit that a lot of people forget to do. I quiz myself all the time on what I just memorized, so my recall is pretty good.

Oddly, the harder thing I've been struggling with more recently is forgetting on purpose: there's a bunch of stuff in my brain that I don't need, and learning how to forget that stuff is a trick I haven't figured out yet.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#54

1. Live simply. As I've gotten older I've found more and more value in not having too many things going on. Gradually I'm sleeping better, eating better, reducing stress, and getting more exercise, all of which is important for the next thing: 2. Memorize as much as I can. It's an exercise; I memorize phone numbers, schedules, people's names, trivia, all kinds of stuff. I've never found anything that matches the flex…

> 2. Memorize as much as I can. I agree that you should rely on your memory. However, when you die, all that information you have is gone to the world. That's why I started writing things down, for when I'm gone. Take a look at Roy Underhill, if he hadn't started writing books and opened a school, all of the woodworking knowledge he has acquired would be gone forever (or until someone else dedicated a lifetime to fin…

Good point! If I ever do anything important, I promise to write about it. :-)

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

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Depends on the level of activity/energy required:

Things with well defined start/end dates or with very high priority/high cost of missing (ie flights, parties, reservations, deadlines): calendar (I use my iphone calendar with alarms if necessary)

Things with less well defined start/end dates: starred emails/browser bookmarks toolbar

Menial things that need to be in the near future (ie groceries, laundry, shopping): Leave something out of place as a reminder, or put in calendar with alarm if urgent

Things with low priority/low cost (ie things to read/learn/listen/watch, fitness goals/accomplishments, future trip plans, long term plans, misc notes): iphone notes

Also keep a notepad at everywhere I work regularly (home desk/office desk) and in my backpack with notes

I also feel its very important to maintain 0 unread emails in all of my inboxes. Makes it much more feasible to stay up to date on everything and avoid missing anything important. 90% of the time I'm awake, I will read any incoming mail within 15 minutes and respond immediately if necessary.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#56

1. Live simply. As I've gotten older I've found more and more value in not having too many things going on. Gradually I'm sleeping better, eating better, reducing stress, and getting more exercise, all of which is important for the next thing: 2. Memorize as much as I can. It's an exercise; I memorize phone numbers, schedules, people's names, trivia, all kinds of stuff. I've never found anything that matches the flex…

One of the problems of keeping everything in your head is trust. People forget! Maybe you have a great memory, but eventually it'll forget things. And it should! otherwise there won't be room for any new stuff. I don't think we have infinite storage available; at some point things have to be erased to make room.

But also, keeping that stuff in a system you can trust frees your brain to do other things. Instead of falling asleep reminding yourself to buy milk tomorrow, you can leave it to the system to remember. The system being anything - a notebook, an app, or what have you. There is some good evidence that this kind of delegation allows for more high-level thinking to come about, since your brain is more free to do other things.

Now, as you've touched on - sometimes technology screws you one way or another, and that trust is broken. So if you have no redundancy or backup or plan for that dependency, maybe you'd be better off keeping things in your head.

But you are human and your head is human by extension. it is faulty, imperfect, and not nearly as good at storing things as pretty much anything else. Even if its good now, it won't necessarily always be, and isn't in such good shape for a lot of folk. So I would not paint it in such a rosy light.

I'm curious, Have you done any experimentation with Method of loci?

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#57
post #24

By the way,is there a solution for windows or linux that would take SQL like queries and allows one to search among files in a computer. Something like : SELECT All *.jpg as image FROM /myfolder/** where image.creationDate > yesterday and image.size Then either display the result in a window or as text. Something that would combine find,grep+pipes into something more "userfriendly".

For CLI: Cygwin `find` with the -mtime and -size options?

For GUI: Windows search can do this with the datemodified:* and size:* operators, or just click the Search tab in the Explorer ribbon to see buttons

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#58
I don't have a lot of information that I need to handle, but I use zim (http://zim-wiki.org/) as a desktop wiki. It's working well for my little needs.

There is also camlistore (http://camlistore.org/) which is trying to be the recpipient for every content one wishes to store: images, music, PDF files, bookmarks, RSS feed items, ... It's working well in the "aggregating" phase, but still a little bit lacking in the "organizing" phase (which may very well be the work of third-party application). For the moment content is accessible through a simple search engine though.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

#59
I use TextWrangler and several text files along with Chrome bookmarks. I'm minimalist and run a very simple operation so this may not be appropriate for many.

To organize the text files; over time I build an index of categories at the top in CAPS, and each category heading below is also in CAPS. Then when I save / retrieve / cull information I search the category "Case sensitive" to locate it quickly. Once major groupings can be identified and corralled, I separate those into independent text files. It's work.

For Chrome bookmarks I build similar categories but this can get unwieldy if not maintained and subdivided on the regular.

If it matters; all my local files reside in one of two folders (or downstream of them). One is for current "in flux" files & the rest goes in the other "archive" folder. I do encrypted backups on the "in flux" often and the "archive" far less often to external drive(s) & the cloud/online. I have a third "clients" folder but all the files there are temp and go back to their respective servers and I don't backup any of it.

I concur with sp3n concerning over-collecting, often I get back to something and it's already obsolete or maybe not at all. As a result I end up in a data cull session from time to time.

Don't like paper and would love to migrate all to 100 percent online one day.

Re: Ask HN: How do you manage/organize information and knowledge in your life?

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I recently started keeping track of a lot of stuff in Tiddlywiki (in server mode). I keep a browser tab open to localhost:8080.

I've used Tiddlywiki in the past but I didn't quite like it (just my experience, I know that a lot of people use it). Switched to dokuwiki and after that to media wiki and I'm using this now, but as you can guess from the question, I'm trying to find/build something better for my needs ;). How do you use Tiddlywiki - do you often search or do you know where did you put some note? What in your opinion are pros and con…

I just search. Between text and tags, I always seem to be able to find whatever I'm looking for.

Pros: It's easy to set up, and has been robust. I like it that it stores its data in the filesystem, in a location of my choosing.

Cons: It seems to use a somewhat unconventional formatting syntax. I find a lot of the terminology pretty opaque. Having had a few scary configuration-related incidents, I don't try to push it to do exactly what I want anymore.

I'm glad to have found Tiddlywiki and set it up, because at the time, I was storing notes in a thousands-of-lines-long text file, which just wasn't working. But I should probably resurvey the scene and see if there's anything better.

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