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Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's one example use case where the ads are horrible: playlists. Youtube has these "top tracks" playlists. When I discover a new artist, I'll often put that on and go do something else. If a rollover ad comes on, I have to come back to the computer, and click the "skip" button, since I'm not sitting down. One thing I was wondering: does the content creator make money when I skip the ad, or only when I take some kin…

The content creator might get paid when you click, or might get paid per impression. The the creator is absolutely not paid is when you click Skip. Click skip when you don't like the ad; It drives up the price for a successful watch, because ads that get skipped don't get played. There's an ecosystem, it can be played, but it has the proper knobs and controls to combat the playing.

This is true, but really if you are running a playlist of music you are using it like a radio - I tend to get an ad per every video which is quite a bit more than other radio solutions, it breaks up the flow and so forth.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #7

https://adblockplus.org/ https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

After having used adblock plus for like the last 2 years, I disabled it the other day and have been amazed at how terrible the Internet is without it.

Don't you know it's your solemn duty to brainwash yourself so that others can get paid?

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

#54

https://adblockplus.org/ https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

Give AdblockEdge a try. It's a true open source clean fork of AdblockPlus, and it doesn't have the "acceptable ads" whitelisted, which are only whitelisted in some cases because Google/etc. paid them off.

Agreed, "Adblock Edge" is the way to go. Original "Adbock Plus" gets money from Google to not filter their ads:

    Google has tried to fight back against Adblock, partly by paying Adblock to whitelist some of their ads. 
    Google’s business model is all about ads but as awareness of Adblock grows it’s increasingly difficult to get ads in front of online users.
src: http://socialtimes.com/youtube-pre-roll-ads-drive-users-inst...

Also: https://adblockplus.org/blog/acceptable-ads-by-the-numbers

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #35

I don't know why it did't happen sooner. I started pre-roll seeing ads on mobile as well, which I don't remember until recently. I don't get why it's disgusting. This is how video creators and Google are supposed to get paid. It's annoying to me that people want free content, and they keep pushing companies to "get traction first, then monetize". This is what has to happen, or else Google has to keep subsidizing prog…

I personally have no problem with including ads with YouTube content- it was always going to end that way. The problem is the fact you have to 'pay' before you get to play. When a FTA tv puts on a movie, they give you 10-15 minutes of content to hook you into he movie, then ramp up the ads toward the end, knowing hor going to stick around to see the end. YouTube != TV movies, but it feels like you have to watch all t…

I would much rather wait five seconds than have the video ruined by an interruption. Yt videos are short. You don't have a 10 minute warm up.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers do not pay for skipped ads.

I'm sure they could drive some value out of a skipped ad. There's definitely some brand impression, and not to mention metrics on what works and what doesn't.

Maybe Google is being non-evil, only accepting payment for ads users accept.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #49

It's totally obnoxious now and destroys usability. I was on a slow internet for a while and youtube mercilessly shoved ads on it. It was impossible to use. I found Youtube center and it smoothed the experience, allows me to disable ads and download video easily. I also got it on the faster connection. It really makes life better. I'm willing to pay a few bucks to never see ads. Until that's an option youtube and dese…

Are the ads higher bandwidth than the content?

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

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post #28
post #19

The net is soooo ripe for a distributed replacement of Youtube, Facebook, Gmail, etc. Once upon a time those sorts of sites provided real value in hosting files, pictures, video and providing a well-known endpoint like gmail. But now we have phones with 64GB of flash for canonical storing of files, p2p protocols for efficient transfer of files and distributed hash tables for finding files. Someone is going to come al…

If you think it's so easy, then you build it. Some of that has been done, some of it has yet to be done. But so far it sucks compared to the centralized system.

Well how did YT make their money before Google acquired the-- oh. They didn't.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or has YouTube gone fanatical on ads?

#60

https://adblockplus.org/ https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

For people who are missing your second link: youtube-dl is a video downloader, and it works on far, far more than just YouTube. The benefits: you download videos at your discretion and preference. You can archive them if you want (I do this largely for documentary / lecture videos), and play them back locally using the video player of your preference. I generally prefer either mplayer or xine, both offer keyboard con…

FF/RW problems may be your ISP and not YT. TWC is notorious for routing YT through its own servers and it's terrible; others may be just as bad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276772
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