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Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
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Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#52Yeah, but I have no idea how good it is or how expensive it is: https://www.dnb.com/en-us/smb.html
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#53An unethical company is likely would consider a lawsuit to put such private site out of business. A collection of unethical companies would be an exponentially higher risk to such site.
Require strict KYC of all reviewers. This should be no privacy concern since it's about B2B contracts that operate in public between two registered businesses.
Don't publicize who wrote a review, but keep it on hand for subpoenas. You are probably not liable for defamation if you can identify who wrote the review - and they should be able to prove it's true. Ask a lawyer first of course.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
And when those "union" bosses run off with the pension fund, who do you call? Or when they insist on the dues and then use them for something else?
The police? Like you would call fir any crime. The union boss is also elected, so you don't vote for people that would do that. You have a lot more power/leverage in that situation than a CEO laying you off right before your options cliff, despite what the people funding whisper/fear campaigns and their shills in the media are desperate to convince you of. Point me to one example of a union boss stealing pensions and…
Do you actually think the police protect workers from, well, anyone?
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
The police? Like you would call fir any crime. The union boss is also elected, so you don't vote for people that would do that. You have a lot more power/leverage in that situation than a CEO laying you off right before your options cliff, despite what the people funding whisper/fear campaigns and their shills in the media are desperate to convince you of. Point me to one example of a union boss stealing pensions and…
Money is gone by the time police comes
It's gone the instant the CEO takes your options by laying you off a week before they vest.
^ that has happened to me. Along with a million other slights: health care reduced, vacation time reduced, etc. etc. A hypothetical union boss running off with dues never has.
Think very carefully about where this abstract fear of "bad union bosses" comes from.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lawyer? That’s pretty obvious. It’s what you do when anyone is in breach of contract or some other civil matter. You just sue them. If it’s a criminal fraud, there’s other people who will help, we call those the authorities.
Money is already gone
And then the court brings it back. Unless they're hiding in Russia?
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#57Yes. It's called a "union". They were discovered around the turn of the 20th century, caused the greatest increase in prosperity and wealth for the greatest number of people of any idea in history but then we decided we were collectively too smart for all that so we're inexorably inching our way back towards children suffering in dangerous conditions to enrich a few warlords (and no, they won't pay you on time).
And when those "union" bosses run off with the pension fund, who do you call? Or when they insist on the dues and then use them for something else?
We can look to our own history.
Years of crime and corruption caused long perception and union density declines from the 50s to the late 80s, when hundreds of officials finally got RICO’d, some unions fell under government supervision, etc.
They still didn’t really give up on crime and corruption, but they never really recovered in the US.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#58Glassdoor?
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#59Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
If they actually didn't pay staff, do you really think they want to go to court?
... yes? Also, what if there were malicious submissions? Then they would definitely go to court. How can you tell?
It's easy to prove that you didn't get paid though. The company would lose in a second, assuming the claim is true. Defamation is only defamation if it isn't true.
Surely they'd know that they didn't pay the employee writing the review...
That being said, the whole scenario seems absurd. Most countries have easy ways for employees to file claims of non-payment and companies are forced to pay up.. I've never heard of a company not paying staff AND getting away with it unless they're bankrupt.