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Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

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maybe, but the union could provide a lot of services to someone who loses their job this way (like income insurance and legal services) and could leverage collective power over companies that demonstrate a pattern of behavior.

This is something that has just never sat well with me. How exactly will the union provide this insurance? That insurance isn't free, so paid for by member dues? How many members are required to be able to afford the payout for just one member? How about the other services unions are touted as being able to provide? They all come from the same dues? I know that unions will put money into investment funds to attempt t…

> This is something that has just never sat well with me. How exactly will the union provide this insurance? That insurance isn't free, so paid for by member dues?

That is how all unions were born.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

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This is something that has just never sat well with me. How exactly will the union provide this insurance? That insurance isn't free, so paid for by member dues? How many members are required to be able to afford the payout for just one member? How about the other services unions are touted as being able to provide? They all come from the same dues? I know that unions will put money into investment funds to attempt t…

Simple idea: look how other unions work, and in other countries as well. The wheel has already been invented.

You can say that about a lot of things. The car was already invented, but so many new car companies struggle. Just because a thing exists does not mean someone else can come along to immediately become successful with thing.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#53

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This is something that has just never sat well with me. How exactly will the union provide this insurance? That insurance isn't free, so paid for by member dues? How many members are required to be able to afford the payout for just one member? How about the other services unions are touted as being able to provide? They all come from the same dues? I know that unions will put money into investment funds to attempt t…

> This is something that has just never sat well with me. How exactly will the union provide this insurance? That insurance isn't free, so paid for by member dues? That is how all unions were born.

That's great insight. Thanks for contributing.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#54

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That’s what licensing is for, not unions.

i don't believe that software development should require a license. imagine having to get board-licensed to download gcc; therein lies the death of free software and owning your devices.

> therein lies the death of free software and owning your devices

(That’s what these people want)

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#55
A timely question. Hopefully someone will share the recent Order and Third Amended Complaint

Since that discussion in 2025

Rose v Meta was consolidated with some other privacy cases against Meta

A first amended complaint was filed,^1 Google was added as a defendant

Defendants motion to dismiss was denied

A third amended complaint was filed on Monday

Here are the PDFs

1.

1st amended complaint

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Meta motion to dismiss

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Google motion to dismiss

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Plaintiffs response

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Meta reply

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Google reply

https://dn711508.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.45...

Order

(Payment required)

https://pacer.login.uscourts.gov/csologin/login.jsf?pscCourt...

2nd amended complaint

(Payment required)

https://pacer.login.uscourts.gov/csologin/login.jsf?pscCourt...

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#56
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple idea: look how other unions work, and in other countries as well. The wheel has already been invented.

You can say that about a lot of things. The car was already invented, but so many new car companies struggle. Just because a thing exists does not mean someone else can come along to immediately become successful with thing.

The question as I took it was "I can't imagine how this can work". Interpreting it as anything else is defeatism and I won't entertain that.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#57
post #56

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You can say that about a lot of things. The car was already invented, but so many new car companies struggle. Just because a thing exists does not mean someone else can come along to immediately become successful with thing.

The question as I took it was "I can't imagine how this can work". Interpreting it as anything else is defeatism and I won't entertain that.

It's not defeatism. It's doing the research to avoid unnecessary failure from over ambitiousness getting in the way of doing something the right way. This isn't a Show HN situation where you go and get some VC funding and yolo your way through it. This is something that if it's not done right it could have a greater blast radius than some VC funded startup shutting down with a "What we've learned" blog post.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#58
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question as I took it was "I can't imagine how this can work". Interpreting it as anything else is defeatism and I won't entertain that.

It's not defeatism. It's doing the research to avoid unnecessary failure from over ambitiousness getting in the way of doing something the right way. This isn't a Show HN situation where you go and get some VC funding and yolo your way through it. This is something that if it's not done right it could have a greater blast radius than some VC funded startup shutting down with a "What we've learned" blog post.

Makes sense, but I haven't seen in the comments the signs of research having been done. Or maybe you were hoping that I am doing the research for you, while you brainstorm how it can't work? I am an union member, albeit not in the US, and for me it looks fine. Sample size of 1, but a sample which says it does work. Take this information as you wish.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#59

Chrome and Firefox have deployed / are deploying local-network-access which prompts the user when apps try this.

I guess that's why I am getting so many "Allow to find devices on your network" alerts. Good feature overall.

Ah, THAT's what that is. They really need to shift the message from the BROWSER is trying to find devices to the WEBSITE is trying to find devices.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#60
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> Meta must face a lawsuit alleging that it secretly tracked Android users' browsing activity on mobile websites that embedded Meta's analytics pixel, and linked that activity to users' identities, a federal judge ruled Monday. > The decision, issued by U.S. District Court Judge Rita Lin in San Francisco, grew out of a class-action complaint initially brought last June by California resident Devin Rose (and later joi…

Not at all to defend Meta but "a feature that allows software developers to test applications" is a dubious definition of localhost. I also can't come up with a better one.

“A network interface which allows processes on the same internet host to communicate without the need for a network connection”
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