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Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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> I am ok assembling the machine and learning how to dial it in. Get a Prusa Core One kit, or build a Voron. Bambulab should be off the table for their bait and switch behaviour. AMS is not particularly impressive and very wasteful. Get a Bondtech INDX down the road if you want true multi material printing.

What is their bait and switch behavior? I'm not familiar with anything shady they've done but am very curious as I've had my eye on a Bambu.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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none of the printers mentioned going to meet any of your requirements. Prusa isn't fully opensource, but has the worst enclosed chamber printer imo. Bambu isn't open source in the slightest (beside the slicer). You are never going to print PC on a bambu either way, at least not Pure PC. Blends, sure, you need at least 100c chambers for pure PC. diy kits are the way to go, but it is going take you a LONG time. a voron…

(The printers mentioned may fulfill some of the requirements, but not all.)

And yes, I think you're absolutely right. DIY kits are the way to go with OP's requirements.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Prusa used to be the most open company out there. I can't believe they are going to enshittify their products now. Anyway, I have a Bambu, and it is a nice printer, but it wants to phone home and it is difficult to use when you put it behind a firewall.

Prusa is getting tired of investing R&D and then having someone else copy that. Someone else without an R&D budget can make things cheaper because they don't have that budget.

They are most tired of investing in R&D in the open and then having some company do a patent in their country. The company then sues them for infringement.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Bambu P1S, no question. Enclosed with filter for ABS fumes etc. Personally I've only used their A1, but it's the best printer I've ever used by far, and it's the first one that you can treat like a paper printer: plop it down, ignore it til you need to print, hit print and assume it works with no supervision. An absolute joy. It's also FAST compared to last gen printers. They do have a bunch of cloud service BS and p…

> Enclosed with filter for ABS fumes etc. I agree that the Bambu printers are as good as it gets for plug-and-play printing, but I wouldn't trust the tiny carbon filter for toxic fumes in an indoor environment. The better VOC filters use a larger amount of activated carbon and they recirculate a high volume of chamber air inside the chamber. Activated carbon also needs to be replaced over time as it loses capacity to…

Their printers are also not sealed well. See for example @CanuckCreator on YouTube where he does a teardown, revealing large holes.

This is not the way to go with toxic fumes or how to get good ABS printing performance.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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post #32

> I am ok assembling the machine and learning how to dial it in. Get a Prusa Core One kit, or build a Voron. Bambulab should be off the table for their bait and switch behaviour. AMS is not particularly impressive and very wasteful. Get a Bondtech INDX down the road if you want true multi material printing.

What is their bait and switch behavior? I'm not familiar with anything shady they've done but am very curious as I've had my eye on a Bambu.

They pushed a firmware update which blocked direct use of your printer without using their proprietary “Bambu Connect” application - because ‘security’.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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> I would prefer something that doesn't phone home and can work offline. Opensource firmware/software and repairability are important. I built myself a Voron, and it's an amazing learning experience. I learn how things work, and the trade offs. I get to pick and replace the exact parts I want. I design my functional parts knowing exactly the printer's capability. There is something very fascinating about it. You can…

Seconding. Voron 2.4r2 350mm here.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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The comment section is full of people who aren't reading the requirements.

Bamboo Labs shouldn't be recommended as OP doesn't want a printer that phones home and is open source.

Then there's cheap printers that are either too small or aren't enclosed, again not suitable for OP.

DIY kits fit OP's requirements better IMO.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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Bambu X1C: I can recommend the Bambu X1C. It would be my printer of choice. In addition to bed-leveling it has flow calibration and AI detection. With the H2S release prices on the X1C are coming down quickly. Elegoo Centauri Carbon: I know lots of people will recommend the P1S but this printer has 95% of the features at half the cost. Also extruder temp goes higher (320C), for more exotic materials.

I bought a Centauri Carbon due to the pretty much unbeatable pricing and it has worked well for an old roll of Amazon Basics PLA, using it off-line by copying files onto it using a flash drive. Waiting for https://github.com/OpenCentauri/OpenCentauri to pan out before I'll consider putting it on my network.

Looking into GF infused PLA, or PETG for come up-coming projects, and wondering how things will work out with their "Filament Switching System" which was promised for Q3.

If money hadn't been a concern, I'd've chosen a Prusa XL w/ multiple print heads.

Re: Ask HN: What's a good 3D Printer for sub $1000?

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I've been very happy with my Qidi Q1 Pro. I paid about $350 pre-tax off Amazon almost a year ago (Black Friday). For me, it was the most machine for the lowest cost I could find. It almost fits your desired print volume (245 x 245 x 240), but it is fully enclosed and has a dedicated chamber heater. I have almost exclusively printed ABS at a 60 deg. C chamber temp. It runs open source Klipper firmware, but I'd imagine repairability wouldn't be the best. Best of all, I have not needed any calibration. It seems pretty spot on out of the box.

My Voron is hands down a better printer but also required significantly more investments in components and especially time.

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