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Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by 1718627440 »

ENGNR wrote: post #31
camillomiller wrote: post #16

As a man who's always considered himself a strong feminist, I think that tea's issue are way more profound that just some data breach. Women were convinced to trust the app as a safe space, but it never was for various reasons. First, as proven by the breach, privacy was not guaranteed. Second, I do not see how a women-only app made to complain on men can help any men get better in their behavior, instead of balcaniz…

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There really seams to be two kind of "feminists": The first claim it's all about equality and the second which is some weird, kind of reverse sexist, ideology. But they are not distributed equally. The latter seams to be what actually defines feminism, is very vocal and is the one that comes up whenever you hear about feminism, while the former seams to only come up when you start to argue against the latter kind.

I also don't get what the former kind is getting from calling themself feminists, when they really only seam to promote common sense.

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by rester324 »

krapp wrote: post #46
camillomiller wrote: post #16

As a man who's always considered himself a strong feminist, I think that tea's issue are way more profound that just some data breach. Women were convinced to trust the app as a safe space, but it never was for various reasons. First, as proven by the breach, privacy was not guaranteed. Second, I do not see how a women-only app made to complain on men can help any men get better in their behavior, instead of balcaniz…

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I find this comment hateful. Typical hatred fueled comment. Blatant misandry. Why is this tolerated here on HN?

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by rich_sasha »

jonplackett wrote: post #42
neilv wrote: post #26

Related: Tea app leak worsens with second database exposing user chats (bleepingcomputer.com) | 120 points by akyuu 1 day ago | 145 comments | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44716529

> “A legacy data storage system was compromised” I am always amused by corporate jargon used to cover up ineptitude. In this case legacy data storage system = publicly accessible bucket

It's like when B737 Max crashed and Boeing blamed a "software glitch". It's about dressing the failure up as something that could randomly happen to anyone.

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by ryandv »

1718627440 wrote: post #51
ENGNR wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There really seams to be two kind of "feminists": The first claim it's all about equality and the second which is some weird, kind of reverse sexist, ideology. But they are not distributed equally. The latter seams to be what actually defines feminism, is very vocal and is the one that comes up whenever you hear about feminism, while the former seams to only come up when you start to argue against the latter kind. I…

> The latter seams to be what actually defines feminism, is very vocal and is the one that comes up whenever you hear about feminism, while the former seams to only come up when you start to argue against the latter kind.

This linguistic game is basically the core defining feature of progressivism as practiced: one can hold a term in linguistic ambiguity and choose, post-hoc, whichever one is most convenient for them to assume at the time (which may be a completely different definition from the one they operated under yesterday).

This way you can have your cake and eat it too by advancing radical feminist ideology at the bailey before retreating to the motte of what you call common sense.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by red-iron-pine »

TradingPlaces wrote: post #10
anonzzzies wrote: post #7

I see many breaches and people still use the products. Even tech stuff: people knowingly using tech/dev products of people who are either sloppy, plain incompetent or both. I don't get it but here we are.

In the 80s and 90s I was positive that customers would revolt over the constant security issues and generally poor quality of Microsoft software. I don’t need to tell you that it did not happen.

hard to revolt against a monopoly. the only alternative is expensive Apple gear, or (for most of the 90s-2000s) learning a deep set of skills to use the nascent linux desktop options.

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by cmxch »

krapp wrote: post #46
camillomiller wrote: post #16

As a man who's always considered himself a strong feminist, I think that tea's issue are way more profound that just some data breach. Women were convinced to trust the app as a safe space, but it never was for various reasons. First, as proven by the breach, privacy was not guaranteed. Second, I do not see how a women-only app made to complain on men can help any men get better in their behavior, instead of balcaniz…

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If it’s bad for Kiwifarms to dox, it is also bad for Tea to dox.

Data privacy needs to be a thing so that Tea and Kiwifarms cannot exist.

Re: Ask HN: Why is "Tea" still on the App Store after so many data breaches?

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Post by vdfs »

tebbers wrote: post #22

Because Apple carefully vets all apps and that's why it must be allowed to maintain its App Store monopoly!

To be fair the app itself wasn't compromised, heck even the server wasn't breached, it was just a database open for everyone!
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