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Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#51
I'm not a dev but I was a UI/UX designer and manager at 100 people startup. Been fired and it since been exactly two years. I have not tried applying anywhere yet, so I'm trying to build something of my own and developed my first proper Saas.

I started writing here about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43107456

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be rehired anywhere near what I was making if I do find something, that's fairly certain. So I've put the onus on myself to generate the income I'm looking for.

What do you think about making your salary your top priority?

I think at this point self-determination has eclipsed a great salary from someone else as a priority. Plus I'm fairly certain I can have it both ways.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#53

In my case, I decided to retire. I didn't want to retire, but it wasn't as if I had a choice. I've kept working, but I write free software, for folks that can't afford people like me.

How I wish I could do this. Mortgage is paid off but everything is still so expensive, at 50 I can't plot a way through the next 30-40 years without starving.

I want to write software. But these days jobs don't want to pay me to write software. They want to pay me to write JIRA tickets. JIRA tickets about fixing other people's code. I keep trying again and again, but the industry has completely lost any magic for me.

Meanwhile I can pump out hundreds of lines a weekend on my own free software projects and actually feel like I'm getting things done.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#54

I never stopped developing. After getting laid off in April 2023 after 13 years as first a full stack then mobile dev, I just started working on things that interested me. I did apply and interview a few times, but I started to realize that pushing 50 and being as cynical as I now am, I'm pretty much unemployable as an IC. So I released my application to the App Store this month, and while savings are dwindling, thin…

> but I started to realize that pushing 50 and being as cynical as I now am, I'm pretty much unemployable as an IC. Well that's me. My theory is that it is not age that makes one unemployable in the software industry, but the unwillingness to put up with shit cooked up by bunch of 25 year old CEOs, CTOs, and the like.

I'm the same age, and I'm pretty sure the industry has substantially changed, not just me.

EDIT: and by changed, I don't mean improved. I was a huge advocate of agile and eXtreme Programming early in my career, and I even worked in shops where it seemed to be really having good results. Now I see everyone using SCRUM and... it's garbage and I want to gouge my eyes out in the meetings.

I see a lot of talking but not a lot of code getting written. And where the code gets written, it's always a pile of ego-boosting needless complexity.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#55

I'm not a dev but I was a UI/UX designer and manager at 100 people startup. Been fired and it since been exactly two years. I have not tried applying anywhere yet, so I'm trying to build something of my own and developed my first proper Saas. I started writing here about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43107456

Good luck! Your SaaS website looks very nice. Are you doing sales or advertisements yet?

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#56

I'm not a dev but I was a UI/UX designer and manager at 100 people startup. Been fired and it since been exactly two years. I have not tried applying anywhere yet, so I'm trying to build something of my own and developed my first proper Saas. I started writing here about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43107456

Good luck! Your SaaS website looks very nice. Are you doing sales or advertisements yet?

Thanks for kind words, not really promoting yet, just patching up some things before I can go ahead and pitch it to potential clients

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#57

In my case, I decided to retire. I didn't want to retire, but it wasn't as if I had a choice. I've kept working, but I write free software, for folks that can't afford people like me.

How I wish I could do this. Mortgage is paid off but everything is still so expensive, at 50 I can't plot a way through the next 30-40 years without starving. I want to write software. But these days jobs don't want to pay me to write software. They want to pay me to write JIRA tickets. JIRA tickets about fixing other people's code. I keep trying again and again, but the industry has completely lost any magic for me.…

> Meanwhile I can pump out hundreds of lines a weekend on my own free software projects and actually feel like I'm getting things done.

I can relate. It's sort of "Hell is other people." I work very effectively on my own, but the scope is limited. Big things require teams.

I realize how fortunate I am, that I could afford to retire. I don't have as much money as I would, with another ten years under my belt, but I should be OK.

It absolutely stuns me, that young folks are getting paid more out of school, than I made, in my entire career, and have less to show for it.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#59
post #44

I never stopped developing. After getting laid off in April 2023 after 13 years as first a full stack then mobile dev, I just started working on things that interested me. I did apply and interview a few times, but I started to realize that pushing 50 and being as cynical as I now am, I'm pretty much unemployable as an IC. So I released my application to the App Store this month, and while savings are dwindling, thin…

I switched into software dev full time at 50 and took a new software job at 52. I'll be 55 y/o this year and I highly doubt I will switch jobs again, I like the org and the work. Prior to that, starting at 45 y/o I was a part time dev and full time firefighter-paramedic (14 years total). Covid scared me to becoming a FT dev.

Did you ever see any way you could use your dev skills to help the other job?

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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post #45

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> Making and losing money can’t mean anything or have any emotional impact, one needs to just see numbers, statistics and trust on one’s strategy. I've known many poker players who end up taking this to the extreme and basically think of every hour of their life in terms of their per hour expected value at the table. Like, "Is it worth it to go to dinner with friends or should I play for those 2 hours instead?" There…

Well... I trade futures which are open 24/6, but then again, my strategy mostly trades around specific dates when economic reports are released so, when there are no new economics reports I don't have anything to do... but it certainly varies from person to person and from strategy to strategy.

But you are right, trading certainly makes one A LOT more aware of risk/reward just in general life, which can be good or bad. Also, it is very easy to gamble instead of speculate, that is to trade something one "hopes" would work vs. trading something that has a statistical percentage of working, and the difference between the two is purely emotional, because one can convince oneself of quite literally anything! Come with a bullish bias and everything looks bullish... take a step back and reconsider and see how easy is for one to see what one wants to see.

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