I said this else where, but, dramatic foreign policy shifts and realignments only make the U.S. even less attractive as an ally and a partner.
Decades of relationships are being strained in the attempt of mending ties with a state that never really did much to advance America's interests in the modern era. And it could all be completely undone in four years. The whip lash of back and forth, radical shifts in policy, are as damaging as the acts that directly alienate America's global partners.
Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
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Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#52Switching search engines to what? AI-powered search also created by American companies? America's image is toxic to everyone right now (including its own citizens). But I don't really see that many valid alternatives. It's not like Europe has done much to cultivate any kind of relevant software industry.
Maybe this will galvanize EU into actually creating something instead of just importing and regulating American tech.
Doubt it though
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#53Any big cloud vendor in EU?
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#54Tesla FSD wont be authorized in Europe, this will be one direct consequence of all of that. In addition, tariffs will be put on cars coming from the US. Plus, US is now recognized as a very unreliable partner in terms of defense, that Europe regrets buying their systems.
Given the constant promises and slow rate of improvement, there's a high chance Tesla's FSD was never going to be authorised in Europe even absent this.
I think this is true. Given the regulatory environment, it's hard to imagine FSD ever getting approved -- even if it actually does get truly safer than the average driver! Europe does not want innovation. And it will not take the (admittedly non trivial) risks required to have it.
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#55Tesla FSD wont be authorized in Europe, this will be one direct consequence of all of that. In addition, tariffs will be put on cars coming from the US. Plus, US is now recognized as a very unreliable partner in terms of defense, that Europe regrets buying their systems.
There's already 10% tariff on cars from US imported into Europe.
But somehow I have feeling that even if it would be reduced to 0%, it wouldn't make a big difference Cars of US brands are generally terrible, not sure how they fulfill EU emission standards, have poor MPG which with EU gas prices are very expensive in maintenance.
Maybe Japanese, Korean or EU brands manufactured US could do better.
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#56They will be back.
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#57Any links to read what people in EU are saying?
/r/Europe on reddit for, at least, some partial info.
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#58Good headlines for sure, but i wonder: Suppose the war ends. Will the Europeans keep boycotting the cheap russian gas? Tarriffs are a nuisance to the US - the US doesn't export much.
The US imports way too much and our economy has been slowly dying since the 70s. Tarriffs are only a nuisance for the upperclass, they're a boon for middle class Americans because they allow more industry to come back to the United States.
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#59They don't realize anything and they don't care, all the leadership in these companies have no vision beyond goosing the next quarter's numbers. They have been promoted to the top because of their ability to meet targets, nothing else. If they see weakness in Europe they will compensate by pushing more ads, lay off some people or increase prices to keep the number go up.
They are all sitting ducks for black swan events, but I don't think getting roasted in Europe will be enough to trouble them.
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#60For what it counts, I deleted my Amazon account today (and lost all my Kindle books in the process), I'll never buy anything from them again. I'll close my S3 storage account with a US company in the coming months : I'll switch to a German service. In the coming weeks, I'll also delete my GMail account (my devices are already deGoogled since many years). There a lot of European alternatives that respect our privacy,…
I don't know how to degoogle at this point. 90% of my registered accounts across the internet are with my Gmail account because I didn't want them tied to my private email.