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Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

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Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#51

Do not trust Plaid or services that use it - it stores your login credentials directly... I use spreadsheets - download csv from your bank, import, label categories, then you can look at it any way you like. Doesn't take that much time, and with a few heuristics, the tagging can be mostly automated...

Plaid/Yodlee/SimpleFIN etc are slowly getting better about not having to store credentials or do scraping. It depends more on the bank. A lot of banks don't support things like oauth, but a few do support giving 3rd party apps read-only access or at least have an oauth2 flow to approve access instead of giving them your user/password.

Agreed in general though, I don't like having to give a budgeting app potential access to transfer all of my money away (even if they promise they won't)

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#52

I highly recommend LunchMoney ( https://lunchmoney.app/ ). It's built by a solo developer who is very responsive and continues to make the app great. Lots of automation and ability to create custom classification rules. I've been happy for the past 3 years. I've also heard good things about CoPilot ( https://copilot.money/ ) but have not had the chance to experiment with it yet.

Thanks for the mention and for your continuous support! Jen here, founder of Lunch Money :) We've come a long way since the solo dev days– happy to announce we're a core team of 5 now (yes, still bootstrapped!) and have lots of exciting stuff in the pipeline for 2025!

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#53

I highly recommend LunchMoney ( https://lunchmoney.app/ ). It's built by a solo developer who is very responsive and continues to make the app great. Lots of automation and ability to create custom classification rules. I've been happy for the past 3 years. I've also heard good things about CoPilot ( https://copilot.money/ ) but have not had the chance to experiment with it yet.

Only issue is no mobile app. I track transactions on mobile so this is a must for me. Mint really was good, wasn't it?

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#54
post #52

I highly recommend LunchMoney ( https://lunchmoney.app/ ). It's built by a solo developer who is very responsive and continues to make the app great. Lots of automation and ability to create custom classification rules. I've been happy for the past 3 years. I've also heard good things about CoPilot ( https://copilot.money/ ) but have not had the chance to experiment with it yet.

Thanks for the mention and for your continuous support! Jen here, founder of Lunch Money :) We've come a long way since the solo dev days– happy to announce we're a core team of 5 now (yes, still bootstrapped!) and have lots of exciting stuff in the pipeline for 2025!

I listened to your Indie Hackers podcast back in the day, very cool. Nice to see you're doing well as it looks like your last HN comment was in 2021

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

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post #35

These tools always felt like a chore to me that didn’t really provide any value to me. Felt the same as “productivity” tools that people pay for to feel like they are doing something. Now I’m just using a banking app ( https://moneymoney-app.com/ ) that fetched the status of all accounts and shows them in one place including my portfolios etc.

At this point, the tools are so good that it’s close to zero effort on my part, and solves so many financial planning problems:

One is, how much money do I actually have to spend right now? Account balances don’t mean anything here. You don’t have that full $3k balance to spend if rent is due tomorrow! And what if I need to pay an insurance bill in 6mo that costs thousands? My account balance doesn’t know that, but a budget item can save for it periodically. So I can rest assured that the “available money” shown in the budget is real, I can spend it (or save it) on anything, and every known expense or bill is still accounted for. Not to mention, it automatically makes sure every credit card transaction results in money set aside for the credit card bill.

It’s hard to quantify the stress you avoid by knowing for sure that you still have the money for big recurring expenses after spending a bunch on something fun. This was more impactful when I was making less money, but it’s so nice to make sure the handful of big yearly bills are already taken care of, and I won’t have to come up with $5k more than normal when that happens.

Also, it’s extremely worthwhile to analyze your spending habits. It’s a chance to understand the true cost of owning your car, or if you spend more on dining out or groceries. That gives you power to make changes. You can easily realize what habits have an outsized impact and what are probably harmless. If you want to have money to buy a house, maybe you need to cut back on an expense. Well, saving $20 on coffee each month won’t be much. But saving a few hundred by using rideshare less might help.

And you get all of that just for spending a few minutes each week double checking the budget categories on automatically imported transactions. The app does all the hard work!

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

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post #38

Could be wrong, but I feel like the most tedious part is categorization of transactions. I wonder if any have adopted LLMs to make this better?

YNAB4 or YNAB Classic, the standalone desktop application based on Adobe Air, was already quite capable of learning the categories for transaction, of course after you've provided them a few times. This still works good to this day, without LLMs; I'm regularly importing bank transactions, and usually I only have to confirm the category. There are just a few cases where there's still manual action required. If you're…

YNAB does keep the same category for the same merchant, but it’s not good at remembering the merchant name sadly. As an example, direct deposit payments are like “COMPANY INC DIRECT DEP 123~ Tran: Ach”, which I rename to just “Company”, and YNAB basically never remembers that (because the number changes in the Payee field), which means it doesn’t remember the category either. There are a number of merchants that cause problems here

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#57
At this point I have tried them all and don’t like any of them. What I really want to know is more granular data on where I am spending my money on. These apps will tell me I spent $6000 last year at Costco but it cannot tell me if some that was on spur of the moment items like a new pair of bedsheets that I probably didn’t need or actual groceries.

What I want is an app that can do OCR recognition of the bill or invoice and categorize the individual items and not just the whole invoice into a broad category. Sadly this tech does not exists.

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#58

At this point I have tried them all and don’t like any of them. What I really want to know is more granular data on where I am spending my money on. These apps will tell me I spent $6000 last year at Costco but it cannot tell me if some that was on spur of the moment items like a new pair of bedsheets that I probably didn’t need or actual groceries. What I want is an app that can do OCR recognition of the bill or inv…

the funny thing is almost every major retailer with a loyalty program does this behind the scenes.. but they do NOT offer it as a data feed or API to customers. If they did, it would be awesome, but I think its mostly downsides for them.

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#59

I'm a spreadsheet pro, but I set up this budget stack — Actual Budget + SimpleFIN — for my spouse last week. SimpleFIN is fast and a quick Plaid alternative for just $1.50 a month or $15 for the year. I created my SimpleFIN account, copied the API token, and added a bank account. Then I jumped back to Actual Budget, entered the API token, and linked the account from Actual to SimpleFIN. You can link as many bank, cre…

Are you affiliated with them? Or just been trained (as a human) on marketing materials ))

Re: Ask HN: Spending Tracking Tools

#60

I'm a spreadsheet pro, but I set up this budget stack — Actual Budget + SimpleFIN — for my spouse last week. SimpleFIN is fast and a quick Plaid alternative for just $1.50 a month or $15 for the year. I created my SimpleFIN account, copied the API token, and added a bank account. Then I jumped back to Actual Budget, entered the API token, and linked the account from Actual to SimpleFIN. You can link as many bank, cre…

> You can link as many bank, credit card accounts as you want with one SimpleFIN account.

The website says "Connect up to 25 institutions and 25 apps"

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