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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by llm_trw »

Yawrehto wrote: post #44
Mond_ wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using ChatGPT actively, then surely you have heard of Gemini and Grok (no clue of how far Grok gets you nowadays, but Gemini should. Not sure how good the voice interface is).

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data. Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

Ah yes, google a company known for not injecting an ideology into their AI: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai...

Nor building AI tools for the pentagon to bomb Yemeni weddings more efficiently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by sunaookami »

0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #21

Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage, but I cannot find anything about it. If you look at downdetector.com you'll notice reported outages from OpenAI, Microsoft 365, XBox Live, Walmart, the list goes on.

Status page is updated now: https://azure.status.microsoft/

>Impact Statement: Starting at 18:44 UTC on 26 Dec 2024, you have been identified as a customer who was impacted by a power incident in South Central US and may experience a degraded experience.

>Current Status: There was a power incident in the South Central US AZ03 which affected multiple services. We have applied mitigation and are actively validating recovery to the impacted services. Further updates will be provided in 60 minutes, or sooner as events warrant.

The times are the same for OpenAI - first notice from 11:00 PST (19:00 UTC)

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by jsiepkes »

jiggawatts wrote: post #25
transcriptase wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wish I could find where someone at AWS described in great detail why their status page was so useless for so long. It basically needed so many approvals to change it (which was disincentivized by SLAs) that issues were usually resolved first. That’s setting aside when they hosted the status red/yellow/green indicator images on s3, so the surest sign that s3 was having issues was that the status indicators didn’t load…

You answered your own question! “Boss, can I change this indicator from green to red?” “How much will that cost us?” “About a million dollars an hour.” “No.”

Besides, we are not fully down. Some services are just degraded. Only 50% of the requests take 40 seconds to complete. Never mind the fact you'll never be able to load a complete page due to all the timeouts.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

deadbabe wrote: post #35

Don’t understand these people who can’t work without ChatGPT. Just look stuff up on stack overflow.

Closed as duplicate. Here's a link to a question that is only marginally related to what you were actually asking and has an answer that is horribly out of date and doesn't even work anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by sandspar »

Yawrehto wrote: post #44
Mond_ wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using ChatGPT actively, then surely you have heard of Gemini and Grok (no clue of how far Grok gets you nowadays, but Gemini should. Not sure how good the voice interface is).

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data. Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

Do you sincerely believe that Gemini is not very biased?

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by ok_dad »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #54
deadbabe wrote: post #35

Don’t understand these people who can’t work without ChatGPT. Just look stuff up on stack overflow.

Closed as duplicate. Here's a link to a question that is only marginally related to what you were actually asking and has an answer that is horribly out of date and doesn't even work anymore.

Guess what ChatGPT was trained on!

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by projectileboy »

bobjordan wrote: post #32

Wow, I subscribed to pro-mode and have been using it like crazy since release to assist my firmware development. Extremely helpful. Now it's changed my workflow so much, I don't even want to work when it's down.

Would you be willing to elaborate on the ways in which the $200/month subscription is better than the $20/month subscription? I’m genuinely curious - not averse to paying more, depending on the value.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by CharlesW »

kshacker wrote: post #50
disqard wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you (I use Claude Sonnet, but same difference...). I do wonder if we're the last generation that will be able to effectively do such "course correct" operations -- feels like a good chunk of the next generation of programmers will be bootstrapped using such LLMs, so their ability to "have that insight" will be lacking, or be very challenging to bootstrap. As analogy, do you find yourself having to "course co…

Many a times. I asked it a simple non programming question. My last paycheck was December 20, 2024. I get paid biweekly. In which year will I get paid 27 times. It got it wrong ... very articulately. I run into this every single day.

You'll be more successful with this the more you know how LLMs work. They're not "good" at math because they just predict text patterns based on training data rather than perform calculations based on logic and mathematical rules.

To do this reliably, prepend your request to invoke a tool like OpenAI's Code Interpreter (e.g. "Code the answer to this: My last paycheck was December 20, 2024. I get paid biweekly. In which year will I get paid 27 times.") to get the correct response of 2027.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by DonHopkins »

belter wrote: post #45
0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #21

Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage, but I cannot find anything about it. If you look at downdetector.com you'll notice reported outages from OpenAI, Microsoft 365, XBox Live, Walmart, the list goes on.

> Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage... Does Azure have any other state? :-)

There are occasional minor onages.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by globular-toast »

bobjordan wrote: post #32

Wow, I subscribed to pro-mode and have been using it like crazy since release to assist my firmware development. Extremely helpful. Now it's changed my workflow so much, I don't even want to work when it's down.

Perhaps time to re-evaluate your tools? Imagine going to your kitchen and finding all your pots and pans are "down" and you can no longer prepare anything. That would be awful.
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