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Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by ahartmetz »

skwee357 wrote: post #50
ahartmetz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a strong emotion, creating fear is an effective means to an end, but rarely/never an ultimate goal. If you really want to understand what's going on, don't stop at "they just want to scare me". As far as the news are concerned, they just want viewers / advertising customers / money in most cases.

I doubt you can "really understand" what's going on without you being directly involved in said conflict, either as a tool for executing a particular agenda, or as a decision maker.

Sure, you can't understand everything, but it's not like you can't understand anything.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by thorin »

Watching threads is always a mistake lol. Next you need to avoid watching this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(comics).

I grew up with this kind of stuff being in the news all the time. I tend to try to avoid the news now or only visit it quite sporadically. It's good not to worry about things you have no control over. Of course your world could come to an end at anytime in multiple ways. Try and keep a healthy body and mind and develop yourself and your relationships, what else can you do? Maybe investigate meditation and mindfulness.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by piva00 »

skwee357 wrote: post #47
arisAlexis wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes there is. For example there is war in Ukraine and in Gaza and you can find more information on those digging deeper. Not trusting any news source and never combining news to "unbias" them is same thinking that leads to " maybe they are lying to us and the earth is flat". There is always a solution.

You can find information, that's true. But for an ordinary citizen, this is usually where it ends. All kinds of feelings such as "being afraid of world conflict", is your interpretation of the found information, either because you've reached this conclusion yourself, or because you live in an echo chamber where this conclusion is the accepted one (see: Russia being anti-west). While I don't discourage people to seek…

> in today's world, unless you are directly involved in the conflict/decision-making, the chance for you to get accurate information is an extremely hard task

Any time in history it was like that, this hasn't changed in "today's world". Today's world just has a lot more, and much faster paced information. There's a bombardment of it at all times if you don't shield yourself from it.

It's this bombardment that creates the exhaustion stated in the GP comment "I don't trust any news", it takes a lot of effort to receive information, parse it through opaque biases, filter it with knowledge about the bigger picture, balance it out between conflicting incentives/motives, and extract some kind of useful piece of information.

Accelerate that with the advent of social media, and bullshit/disinformation/misinformation is drowning us everywhere. Some people retreat to their bubbles, others keep treading water trying to make sense of what they read/hear knowing that the "truth" is probably not reachable, and others simply give up because it's overwhelming.

> News either take things out of context, or simply lack professionalism due to poor journalism, lack of time and or desire to perform thorough deep dives, etc.

All of these issues also boil down to: there's no money in news, even less for deep dives, the media who was responsible for that in earlier decades has lost its readership and with it the only major funding they had: selling eyeballs. A few vehicles managed to ride the storm but now are so fragile in their funding that they can't investigate the hands that feed them, it's quite dire...

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by warkanlock »

thorin wrote: post #52

Watching threads is always a mistake lol. Next you need to avoid watching this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(comics) . I grew up with this kind of stuff being in the news all the time. I tend to try to avoid the news now or only visit it quite sporadically. It's good not to worry about things you have no control over. Of course your world could come to an end at anytime in multiple ways. Try an…

You know what? Last night I watched Threads.

No kidding

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by guiraldelli »

peepeepoopoo89 wrote: post #43
leviliebvin wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fascinating perspective. Because a lot of people would rather say that NATO is a US-led project intended to protect US hegemony.

NATO needs the US a lot more than the US needs NATO. It wasn't always this way, but today we really don't get anything out of being allied with a deindustrialized and demilitarized Europe that is currently doing its absolute best to provoke an irrational and unstable neighboring world power.

I might be mistaken, but as far as I remember, there were NATO troops (that were not US troops) in Afghanistan, for decades, not because any European country declared war to Afghanistan.

I am not expert in history, but I cannot recall Europeans using US troops in an active war since creation of NATO. The opposite can be said in this century, though.

I do not deny that having the back of US, that has possibly the biggest military in the world, is favourable for European countries.

But I am absolutely tired of this discourse that NATO only benefits the others, and that USA doesn't get any benefit from it.

It is beneficial for all parts, and that is the reason it is an alliance. And USA has used it for its benefit for quite long; thus, it is not unreasonable that allies might rely on its help.

Besides, it is beneficial for USA to keep Europe stable and in peace — most clearly, for macro-economic reasons.

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by libertine »

peepeepoopoo91 wrote: post #56
libertine wrote: post #48

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Besides that being a propagandized lie and an iteration that fell off because it didn't stick, you could at least make an effort and provide a source.

But I did forget about this Russian propaganda point, thank you for pointing it out.

Also, I should add the:

- USA is building bioweapons labs in Ukraine;

- There are CIA bases in Ukraine;

Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by peepeepoopoo91 »

guiraldelli wrote: post #55
peepeepoopoo89 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NATO needs the US a lot more than the US needs NATO. It wasn't always this way, but today we really don't get anything out of being allied with a deindustrialized and demilitarized Europe that is currently doing its absolute best to provoke an irrational and unstable neighboring world power.

I might be mistaken, but as far as I remember, there were NATO troops (that were not US troops) in Afghanistan, for decades, not because any European country declared war to Afghanistan. I am not expert in history, but I cannot recall Europeans using US troops in an active war since creation of NATO. The opposite can be said in this century, though. I do not deny that having the back of US, that has possibly the bigg…

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Re: Ask HN: Aren't you afraid of a possible world conflict?

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Post by peepeepoopoo91 »

libertine wrote: post #57
peepeepoopoo91 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Besides that being a propagandized lie and an iteration that fell off because it didn't stick, you could at least make an effort and provide a source. But I did forget about this Russian propaganda point, thank you for pointing it out. Also, I should add the: - USA is building bioweapons labs in Ukraine; - There are CIA bases in Ukraine;

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