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Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by interstice »

I'm a Technical Director of a design/web agency (small scale, I still build one out of every 3 or so sites). We use Sanity + Next JS (or Sanity + Remix more recently) in a repeatable way. I used to use WP a long time ago, and even then I had my own setup to use twig templating, my own image resizing solution, etc.

I have been considering pouring energy into this problem or at least offering advice, our approach is definitely bespoke and not scalable in the way WP is, but I've long thought the middle ground is in need of ~something~.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by maguay »

jjwarmerdam wrote: post #32

I have been using kirby ( https://getkirby.com/ ) for all my websites with great success the last few years. It's super stable, flexible, under active development and has a great ecosystem. Can't recommend it enough.

Seconded. Use it as the full CMS for one blog, as a headless CMS for a company site for another. Great either way.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by type0 »

immibis wrote: post #35
hedgehog wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forking the code is easy, forking the infrastructure and community not so much. It would be a lot of work and with an apparently capricious founder any splinter project has a high likelihood of getting bogged down in drama. My guess is no code fork gets traction, business continues mostly as usual but the supporting service providers and dev ecosystem start moving to alternatives that have more stable governance. Eve…

Look what happened to freenode: everyone just migrated to exactly the same thing but without the crazy guy or the trademark. WPEngine could fork WordPress, call it WPEngine, they're probably already halfway done scraping the plugin repository.

freenode wasn't a software project, infrastructure - yes, community - yes, but there's no wordpress community without the software

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by AnonHP »

jjwarmerdam wrote: post #32

I have been using kirby ( https://getkirby.com/ ) for all my websites with great success the last few years. It's super stable, flexible, under active development and has a great ecosystem. Can't recommend it enough.

I recall this being mentioned before and I thought I’d take a look. One thing missing on this site is a clear pricing page and pricing link in the menu and/or footer. Only the license page mentions that it is not free and that a paid license is required.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by dqv »

jdboyd wrote: post #9

I moderately frequently wonder what is next for me after WordPress. The drama has nothing to do with it though. I don't use WP Engine (have long thought they seemed off), and I don't see the drama causing wordpress.org or wordpress.com to fall.

Likewise. The vast majority of what I've seen so far on this debacle amounts to mob mentality. A lot of people are adding their commentary about Mullenweg, but it strikes me as very surface level and unthoughtful: just saying something to say something because they know what WordPress is.

I don't think the drama will kill Automattic or any of the other involved orgs either. The post-WordPress thing for me, I think, is going to be something that successfully ejects the Gutenberg editor and builds around it. Probably something that borrows from what Drupal has done with Gutenberg and what Corcel has done with WordPress models.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by EasyMark »

eXpl0it3r wrote: post #44
dilippkumar wrote: post #36

For those of us out of the loop, can someone please share a summary of the drama?

I’ve tried to document the most relevant happenings and writings: https://duerrenberger.dev/blog/2024/10/08/timeline-of-the-wo... > tl;dr After Matt Mullenweg, BDFL of WordPress and CEO of Automattic, has dragged WP Engine publicly through the mud for not paying a ludicrous amount of money or contributing (enough) to the open source project, WP Engine is suing Automattic and Matt Mullenweg, while Automattic claims mi…

Thanks for doing this, I had lost track of the drama.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by thewrinklyninja »

ozten wrote: post #18

This space grew into a bunch of different sub-cutures: - static website generators (Hugo, etc) - WYSIWYG editors (Wix, Squarespace) - Frontends (NextJs, etc) backed by Headless CMS (Strapi, firebase, etc) There really isn't a good spiritual successor currently. Someone should clone the UX of WP Admin panel, plugins, etc and drop the worst tech debt. Base it on React and make it really easy to deploy. (edit: formattin…

There's is Ghost as well. Which I think was started by some ex Wordpress people from what I remember back in the day.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by ryanmitchell »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #43
ryanmitchell wrote: post #14

Statamic: https://www.statamic.com

Source available (?) and licenses get expensive quick it looks like (?) When I last did my survey of what I could use as a CMS I ran into this, looked at the licensing and walked away quickly. But I may be wrong since I didn't do any more research, .

Source available yes. There is platform licensing starting at $7 per month per site. Prices are comparable to Wordpress + Jetstream + ACF which is functionality you get out of the box with Statamic.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by KayL »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #8

Is Drupal still a thing? I have always considered Drupal to be a pretty industrial-strength system, but quite complex. One of the nice things about Drupal, is that you could customize the backend. I have always hated WP's backend.

No. Drupal is only suitable if an organization requires open source. To develop a fully customized site still saves more time than using Drupal. And your maintenance path will be much simpler.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by ryanmitchell »

Zaskoda wrote: post #30
ryanmitchell wrote: post #14

Statamic: https://www.statamic.com

I've been using Statamic for a few months now. I've often worked with Laravel, so I tend to really like Statamic. The static content by default feature means you can skip a database altogether if you'd like. Theming and content management is a little bit more of a learning curve, but so much more powerful than something like Wordpress. I do have one complaint. It can be remarkably difficult to learn how to use Statam…

There is a very active discord community that is on hand to help: https://discord.gg/WG9Rucjf
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