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Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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I’m thinking about making a tool to do this, I haven’t quite gotten to loading a comment thread but I have loaded 250k images and also 400 from Evernote. Next in line is to load some unwieldy discussions, particularly from a site with a horrible comment UI such as Arstechnica. I’m particularly thinking about how to make sense of badly organized threads from Mastodon and similar things.

With timecode metadata and heatmaps to highlight rapidfire back 'n forth and stuff? Semantic scoring to rate quip chains Vs. slower, longer considered interactions? Ways of highlighting high frequency commenters, perhaps rating frequent flyers by degree of interest in what they have to say and weighting threads by "participant rating". There are many ways to go in this space.

The best idea I have now is to scan HN and make a list of commenters who said something like “I am working on a PhD in this topic”.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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post #35

I use a short userscript to “mark as read” comments on hover. They just get a different color so I can hop around and know where to resume. It’s particularly helpful with active threads where new comments appear in the middle.

One can also search for “minutes ago” etc.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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post #47

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Trees devolve into a 1on1 discussion, also other branches can have the same discussion, leading to redundant arguments. You can have a tree, but only 1 branch is allowed for efficient discussions. Like every sane forum software does, be it phpbb, vbulletin, xenforo ...

You mean in sane; every sane discussion place looks more like subreddit (or, often enough, is a subreddit). > Trees devolve into a 1on1 discussion, also other branches can have the same discussion, leading to redundant arguments. 1 on 1 is a feature, as it's never truly 1 on 1 - anyone can jump in instead of just listening to the conversation. As for other branches having the same discussion, the solution is the oppo…

>You mean insane; every sane discussion place looks more like subreddit (or, often enough, is a subreddit).

No I meant sane. Tree style is insane. You can have different topics or categories but all topics should be linear.

>1 on 1 is a feature, as it's never truly 1 on 1 - anyone can jump in instead of just listening to the conversation.

They could, but rareley do. On Reddit this requires clicking many links.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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I'm not a web developer. Would you mind explaining how I'd use that snippet?

For example for this story one would place the number 40952952 from the URL https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40952952 at the end of the given URL such https://hnrss.org/item?id=40952952

javascript:(_=>{location.href=location.href.replace("news.ycombinator.com","hnrss.org")})();

This is a bookmarklet for it. Add it to bookmarks and click on it after opening a HN thread.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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post #40

These days I plug the article into https://kulli.sh which aggregates all the comments across HN, Lemmy, Lobsters, Reddit etc. into a single feed which I can quickly filter by source, discussions or order reverse chronologically. When I've had enough of a particular comment thread or source, I click/tap to minimize it and continue with the next one. I like having all the comments on an article in one place, not just f…

Sounds like a great aggregator but the poor site is getting slammed

The service-side rate limiters for requests made to the various aggregation sources are global across all user requests so it can slow down a little bit sometimes.

I've been thinking of offering dedicated instances for a fixed monthly cost if people are interested, but so far I haven't had any takers and I'm happy enough using the global instance for now.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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post #52

This extension marks new comments with an orange vertical bar, plus some niceties: https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news

The "Highlight new, unread" future already exists, but you have to email the mods to have them enable it. I've had it on for years. I'm not sure why it's not a GA feature.

Even still, it's not super useful.

Re: Ask HN: How do you read and follow the discussions on big threads?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(It’s not entirely an algorithm, it’s also human curation.)

I wonder if we could train DangGPT that would reliably replicate dang's curation and moderation decisions (as distinct from just talking like him).

As resident layman and LLM/chatgpt hater, I am offended on behalf of dang. He is not replaceable with a real person; an automated replacement is insulting to even consider.
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