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Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
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Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
broken so I re-did the main prompt myself https://imgur.com/a/GjFCTRD
Yeah so to my eye, this makes sense. These are all women. We didn’t specify a location or time period or art style. There’s a certain kind of person who gets upset every time they see someone that doesn’t look like them where they didn’t expect it. But that’s their problem. Most of the human beings who have ever lived were not white. They might try to say it’s “statistically inaccurate” but they’re probably not pouri…
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Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#53I use Github Copilot and GPT4, and some CodyAI with GPT4 for coding. I still find them better for code. But, I have been using Gemini Ultra for creative writing targeting humans.
For human writing, Ultra is w-a-y beyond what ChatGPT 4 is capable of IMHO. GPT4 sounds like an AI write it. Even if you put a lot of prompting into establishing the right tone. With Ultra, it is getting hard to tell. Which is great! I think of them like people. Each has their own opinion and has talents in different areas. Given they are $20/m I am happy to pay for all of them. It takes them about 5 minutes to pay for themselves.
I passed this text through Ultra and this is what I got:
Absolutely! Here's a rephrasing that focuses on a more natural, flowing conversational style while still conveying the core ideas:
I use GitHub Copilot, GPT-4 (and CodyAI), and Gemini Ultra regularly, and I've noticed a big difference in how they approach tasks. For coding, Copilot and GPT-4 are my top picks. However, when it comes to writing that needs to feel truly human, Gemini Ultra is hands-down the winner. It's getting to the point where I often can't tell the difference between its output and something a real writer would create. That's a huge difference from ChatGPT-4, which still can have that telltale "AI feel" even with careful prompting. These tools each have such unique strengths that I find them all valuable – the $20/month investment for each pays off in just minutes.
Changes Made:
* No Visual Cues: Removed formatting elements (bold, bullets) that can scream "AI-assisted".
* Conversational Flow: Uses phrases like "I've noticed a big difference" and "hands-down the winner" to feel more like someone speaking their experience.
* Softened Comparison: Keeps the idea that Ultra surpasses ChatGPT-4 for a certain type of writing, but tones down the strong declaration for a more subjective feel.
Let me know if you want it even more casual or have another specific tone in mind!
Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently yes, even from the Google mobile app where I did this. https://g.co/bard/share/325bfd6d79cd
broken so I re-did the main prompt myself https://imgur.com/a/GjFCTRD
Except you didn't do what I suggested... You just said women.
> generate a picture of a typical Swedish women
Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#55I've struggled to get it to generate images, especially when related to memes. For instance, I wanted to extend the "this is fine" image, but Gemini Advanced would not because it was harmful to animals. Most of the image requests I give it are back-and-forths on what it can't generate for me for some ethical or moral reason.
My initial impression was good but the extreme "safety" blocks in Gemini are what makes me still use ChatGPT (which isn't great in the regard either but not as bad as Gemini). I wonder if they even have a way to track how much the AI safety people are impacting revenue.
Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Can you draw a photo of an avocado-shaped chair with a pineapple-man sitting in it?" Came up with 4 images. You raise a good point, though... I've also asked it to use its "web search" capability for tasks and it says it doesn't have that capability, but when I ask it by implying it should do a web search, it goes ahead and does it. Weird!
It’s all statistics. In the training set, there were probably questions asking about its capabilities and it was trained to say it has less than it does. (Or it’s a bad system prompt) There’s no internal understanding of itself or its capabilities.
There is no understanding to answer a question about its capabilities but the point is it has the capability but the prompt is failing to trigger it. This is separate from "knowing" or not. Think ChatGPT functions that don't work.
Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s all statistics. In the training set, there were probably questions asking about its capabilities and it was trained to say it has less than it does. (Or it’s a bad system prompt) There’s no internal understanding of itself or its capabilities.
There is no understanding to answer a question about its capabilities but the point is it has the capability but the prompt is failing to trigger it. This is separate from "knowing" or not. Think ChatGPT functions that don't work.
Knowing how these models are trained and how these chat systems are built, I wouldn’t expect the question
“Can you search the internet?”
To actually cause an internet search.
Generally you know information about yourself, and that quirk of humans is likely reflected in the QA training data and thus the model’s outputs.
Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?
#58For my purpose — reading hourlong transcripts of conference calls and answering questions about them — it is pretty useless. GPT-4 got nerfed so many times that it is no longer useful for that. Claude 2 is now my go-to.