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Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Exercise has some huge physiological and psychological benefits [0]. It won’t immediately cure serious mental illnesses, but it definitely doesn’t hurt. Anecdotally, my mental health is much better with a good diet and some physical exercise every week. [0] https://cursosextensao.usp.br/pluginfile.php/834363/mod_reso...

Anecdotally mine is as well. But for me it's about enough exercise and not about making a new hobbie out of it. I guess most people don't have enough healthy exercise, getting to the point of enough is definitely a health benefit without question. But people here recommend going full on muscle building what seems like a shift of their issues more than anything.

I love the fact that you call out exercise in its other forms. Physical labor is… exercise. Getting out and about and doing things can be exercise. It’s not just hitting a gym. I got in my best shape by avoiding the gym. There’s so much marketing around it, everyone trying to make money, when the reality is all you need is you. Calisthenics requires no upfront purchase. Only a time commitment. Lifting weights is cool too if you have them or want to buy them. Running is great too if you’re into that (or like the resulting “runners high”). I found sports, martial arts, and getting physical in my shop is plenty enough exercise to keep me in my current size jeans for the foreseeable future.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Believe in me, I've been in your shoes before, it seems like an endless problem! But the cure starts with the basics that we often neglect: 1) Go out for some exercise (45min of moderate walking) 2) Get some sunlight 3) Check your Vitamin D levels 4) Drink about 2 liters of water 5) Eat healthily 6) After all this, start thinking about your employability again Never forget that when one opportunity closes, others ope…

Yep, you need to do all that for your brain to function properly.

Many studies show exercise is as good if not better than drugs at treating depression.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Just a small bit of advice.

A lot of companies use recent employment as a filtering mechanism: if you have a big gap in technology employment, you might have trouble getting interviews.

I'd say to create an LLC on your own that serves as a consultancy and to put that on your resume that you're working with them to plug this gap. Register on freelance sites and take any jobs you can: even shit underpaid jobs. Make some money and get your skills a little current and use that to bypass the hiring filters.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Some pragmatic and short term advice: 1. It is hard to explain not being able to land a job for 36 months for a Python backend developer, even if you are below average as you said, or too focused on a niche industry. Unless you have very high standards and if you are willing to work for a not-too-fancy company for industry average or slightly below salary, you should have found one. One thing comes to mind is this ha…

Have you gone through interviews in the past 3 years? Nothing surprises me any more. Software hiring is fundamentally broken.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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And people are complex creatures. What works for some may not work well for others.

That’s true of diets, not exercise. Physical exercise is always measurable and always works. Whether you can do the exercise is another matter. It should be tailored to your body. It should be hard. It should hurt (in soreness, not in pain). I’ve seen people transform.

You have just listed multiple factors which can be involved in the success of an experience.

How can you claim it’s universal when from your own words it clearly is not?

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Maybe not the solution you're looking for but...pick something else?

If you're below average after 7 years and unemployed for the last 3, it makes one wonder why you keep trying to do this? You're a decade in and it isn't working out. That's okay. There are millions of other things people do to support themselves.

What else do you enjoy? It might not pay as well as being a programmer, but it probably pays better than being an unemployed programmer. Why keep your wagon hitched to this one path?

It doesn't sound like this is the path for you. I don't know what voice is telling you otherwise, but I wanted to add mine in to say you don't have to keep trying to do this.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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The effects are quite measurable

Effects on your body or mental health? As far as I know nobody crowned sports as a magic cure for mental well-being yet.

Well actually many studies show that exercise is as good or if not more effective then drugs at treating depression.
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