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Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#51

Not me but a friend. PhD in Physics and programming, he did a ton of modeling with R. He had/has chronic health issues, so used that to get a teaching job in a country with socialized medicine. Once he got citizenship he'd had enough of the academia and coding... dude changed to cheese making. Like, he is a full-time cheese consultant now, and travels around the world to assist in cheese making efforts, setting up ch…

Guys like him get to do that, because he has the sort of brain that allows him to get a PhD in physics The world is a whole lot more dangerous and confusing for everyone else

I don’t get your point.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#52

Not me but a friend. PhD in Physics and programming, he did a ton of modeling with R. He had/has chronic health issues, so used that to get a teaching job in a country with socialized medicine. Once he got citizenship he'd had enough of the academia and coding... dude changed to cheese making. Like, he is a full-time cheese consultant now, and travels around the world to assist in cheese making efforts, setting up ch…

He really milked it, huh?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#54

If I ever win the lottery I'm dropping software engineering to do music somehow. I play guitar and learn music theory as a hobby, but only at a beginner/intermediate level with not enough time to practice and get to the next level.

You only have time if you make time.

FYI, it seems to me like all your comments might be automatically "dead"? I don't know if there is some auto moderation process in the background or if they're all getting organically downvoted or something? But every time I see one of your posts, in any topic, it's gray and dead.

I vouched for this one because it seemed reasonable. I know I struggle with making time for practice.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#56
I took a sabbatical that led me to pursue a coaching certification from a university across the country in Washington D.C. It was a wonderful experience and I connected with some great people, many of whom I still keep in close touch with today. I've met great people in tech too, but it was a breath of fresh air to work with people who are energized around helping individuals improve their lives.

I'm back in tech now, working for an AI services startup, but I leveraged my experience to create a role where I can bring coaching within the organization and to our clients through change management coaching.

I was inspired by my mindfulness practice and by Chade-Meng Tan's work at Google, where he used his 20% time to create mindfulness courses within the company. Especially as technological advancement continues to accelerate, there will be a huge need for personal growth initiatives to help people lean into the kinds of skills that AI can't replace: social/emotional intelligence, empathy, creativity, for example.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#57
I left a nice job as a developer to pursue a PhD in English literature. It was the best decision I ever made. I spent eight years reading novels and poems for a living, writing fun things about them, and teaching them. I got to deeply explore literature, philosophy, and linguistics, to read some of the greatest books of the Western canon, and to think deeply about what makes us human. Humanistic disciplines are often considered "impractical," but education is really about satisfying your curiosity, rather than preparing for a job. Incidentally, I have a much better job now. I recommend everyone take some courses in the humanities.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#58
Not me, but a friend... She was nearly 10 years into a career, most of it at a FAANG and the rest FAANG-adjacent. All as an ML engineer. Her spouse is also a software engineer.

She left her engineering job ~18 months ago to study music on the way to a music career (she had studied a lot of music during her earlier school years and has been composing for years). The music program involved everything from the physics of sound to composition, production, engineering, performance, etc. It was a deeply intensive one year program that she has now completed.

She keeps getting offers to do software around music (effects, workflow management, etc.) as there aren't enough well qualified software/ML engineers around that deeply understand the composition / production / engineering process. But she wants to be more on the music side. She has taken one such gig to pick up a mentor who composed the scores for several prominent video games, an area she's interested in.

She still has more than a year of runway, so she's taking 2024 to generate a portfolio of her own music and sort of build a brand (my words, not hers).

So, she's finished the school part, but hasn't completed a career transition. It's exceedingly unlikely that she'll ever replace her tech comp, but that was never the goal. It's been great for her mental health. Part of that is that she's been very actively working on her mental health through all of this. This new journey has required its own kind of resiliency because the path is far from clear and requires a lot of reflection and a lot of strategy planning about how to proceed. A supportive spouse has been a huge plus.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#59
Does the answer count if I was never a full-time software professional?

Computers have been a hobby all my life. I well remember the epiphany I felt while learning Logo in elementary school, at the moment I understood what recursion is. I don't think the fact that the language I have mostly written code in in recent years is Emacs Lisp is unrelated to the above moment.

Yet I have never desired to work as a professional software developer. I majored in history and Spanish at Columbia while working for the university's Unix systems group. Before graduation I interviewed and got offers (including one explicitly as a developer) at various tech startups. Of my offers I chose an investment banking job where I worked with tech companies; my manager was looking for a CS major but I was able to convince her that I had the equivalent thereof. Thank goodness for that; I got to participate in the dotcom bubble without being directly swept up in its popping, and saw the Valley immediately post-bubble collapse. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34732772>

I'm glad, for the sake of civilizational and economic progress, that others are able and willing to program for pay. Meanwhile I will continue to putter around with Elisp at home.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left software to study non-STEM subjects?

#60
post #41

I left STEM (non-CS/software) and became a firefighter-paramedic in 2006. I spent 14 years and left in 2020 when Covid was the rage. From 2010-2015 I got a masters in CS as a back up plan in case I got hurt or sick and couldn't do FF/PM. After I graduated in 2015 I worked a couple of remote part time jobs and then went full time developer in 2020 when I left the fire department.

What do you like/dislike about both careers?
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