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Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#51

Personal capital, now empower. I don't think there's a better one that's free as well.

Do they still call you constantly trying to get you to buy their money management services? I liked personal capital but hated the sales pressure.

I responded to one of their sales emails saying that I liked their service because it was free, and I wasn't interested in paying for their advice. Haven't heard from them since, but have been using the free service for years.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#52

I've been using Simplifi by Quicken and it's been very nice. It's around $50/year, I can track all of my transactions and bank accounts.

They also offer a discount if you import account data from Mint. However, it's worth knowing that the imported account data will be entirely wrong* and you'll need to delete those accounts when you want to use the site for real.

It also lets you add a second login, which is great for couples.

* In our case all transactions were flipped, showing a negative balance on our checking and brokerage accounts and positive on our CC.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#53
I tried both Mint and YNAB but they both had syncing issues that infuriated me. My friend recommended Copilot[0] and it's been a joy to use. It's designed so well that it somehow got me to take the time to label my transactions & set my budget, where with Mint/YNAB I would just add my accounts & not do anything else because of the laggy interfaces.

[0]https://copilot.money/

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#54

I've been really enjoying Monarch money. It's not free, but they offer an introductory discount for Mint users. I'm not a power user. I used Mint mostly for a window into the current state of my accounts, and to check recent transactions. I find the Monarch UI to be snappier and less laggy than Mint, which makes sense given it seems like Mint was not a very well-funded project at Intuit. I've toyed around a bit with…

I switched to Monarch as well. I tried YNAB first, after mint closed, and _despised_ it. Then tried Monarch and felt basically at home again.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#55

YNAB isn't too expensive though I don't like that they went to an annual subscription. It does sync with most accounts (I don't use that feature but it seems to work well for others, pretty sure the same syncing backend as Mint and others use). GnuCash can sync with some banks but I only had luck with one of mine, and never tried with other account types like investment and retirement accounts. If you're willing to d…

I can't process how $100/yr for a static accounting program isn't severely overpriced. Do banks and credit cards charge for API requests? Is the compute necessary to balance your books require leasing A100s to crunch your numbers? A terabyte of rack space to store my transactions? Before the MBA enshitification of software, you would buy an accounting program for $60 and use it for years. And it would work great beca…

I generally agree, but presumably features are added to it, integrations with all sorts of banks, markets, payment processors, crypto(lol), etc, etc. People probably also want mobile apps, which is an ever-moving target as mobile OSs change SDKs every other release.

If you wanted basic accounting functionality, could just use a spreadsheet. Plenty of free spreadsheet software out there. Why spend $60?

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#56

YNAB isn't too expensive though I don't like that they went to an annual subscription. It does sync with most accounts (I don't use that feature but it seems to work well for others, pretty sure the same syncing backend as Mint and others use). GnuCash can sync with some banks but I only had luck with one of mine, and never tried with other account types like investment and retirement accounts. If you're willing to d…

I can't process how $100/yr for a static accounting program isn't severely overpriced. Do banks and credit cards charge for API requests? Is the compute necessary to balance your books require leasing A100s to crunch your numbers? A terabyte of rack space to store my transactions? Before the MBA enshitification of software, you would buy an accounting program for $60 and use it for years. And it would work great beca…

Account connection services are insanely expensive and you don't want to create all that yourself. That would be even more expensive to maintain. That's why there's services like Plaid. For every user it costs at least 1$ a month per user per connected account. That alone creates a huge amount of ongoing expenses.

That's why we don't offer the ability to connect accounts within our app. Users don't understand or don't want to understand that such a feature alone would easily double the subscription price. Without VC you cannot give users the ability to connect their accounts for free without losing lots of money.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#57
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YNAB has turned my financial life around. I wish I had started using it 10 years ago. They also have built an importer from Mint. Some highlights I love: * One window to every account I have, which mostly automatically updates/syncs * Envelope budgeting has forced me to look at every penny and figure out what it's for * API to work with other tools (for me, Splitwise - https://github.com/vascopinho/split2ynab/ ) And…

I have YNAB and the most annoying part of the entire thing is that you cannot see your total expenses? I mean, the most basic feature is not in this app.

If I want to see my monthly expenses (total), it doesn't let me. It just shows me how much I need to save this much in each bucket.

Weird.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

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post #57
post #5

YNAB has turned my financial life around. I wish I had started using it 10 years ago. They also have built an importer from Mint. Some highlights I love: * One window to every account I have, which mostly automatically updates/syncs * Envelope budgeting has forced me to look at every penny and figure out what it's for * API to work with other tools (for me, Splitwise - https://github.com/vascopinho/split2ynab/ ) And…

I have YNAB and the most annoying part of the entire thing is that you cannot see your total expenses? I mean, the most basic feature is not in this app. If I want to see my monthly expenses (total), it doesn't let me. It just shows me how much I need to save this much in each bucket. Weird.

I use the "Reports" section for this - breaks down expenses just fine in several different ways with a calendar widget as well. Have you tried that out?

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#59
post #5

YNAB has turned my financial life around. I wish I had started using it 10 years ago. They also have built an importer from Mint. Some highlights I love: * One window to every account I have, which mostly automatically updates/syncs * Envelope budgeting has forced me to look at every penny and figure out what it's for * API to work with other tools (for me, Splitwise - https://github.com/vascopinho/split2ynab/ ) And…

For anyone reading the parent comment, you should avoid YNAB if you use an American Express card. YNAB uses Plaid and the overall integration from YNAB through to Amex and back does not work.

I have found this to be the case with my Apple card - so once a month I export a .QFX from the Wallet app and import it into YNAB. This process is a bit laborious but I've never had to manually enter an account's transactions in several years of using the app.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative to Mint.com?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't process how $100/yr for a static accounting program isn't severely overpriced. Do banks and credit cards charge for API requests? Is the compute necessary to balance your books require leasing A100s to crunch your numbers? A terabyte of rack space to store my transactions? Before the MBA enshitification of software, you would buy an accounting program for $60 and use it for years. And it would work great beca…

Account connection services are insanely expensive and you don't want to create all that yourself. That would be even more expensive to maintain. That's why there's services like Plaid. For every user it costs at least 1$ a month per user per connected account. That alone creates a huge amount of ongoing expenses. That's why we don't offer the ability to connect accounts within our app. Users don't understand or don'…

> For every user it costs at least 1$ a month per user per connected account.

Then how is Quicken Simplifi, mentioned by some other folks in this thread, able to offer it for $2.99 per month? Volume??

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