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Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Curious how this works out financially though. Following the crowd got people into faang with 500k incomes. Working on something obscure I haven’t seen payoff the same.

Money aint everything.

Sounds like the sort of thing someone with money would say.

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Or ubiquitous. When you are selling a skill that is as common as the ability to write JavaScript, then you aren't selling much, and you're very replaceable. Learning a very niche skill is harder. Finding jobs with very niche skills is harder. But once you've done that you become very hard yo replace. (Your job might go away, but there's seldom outright replacement. ) Plus of course some protection from offshoring.

Agree on the principle - but management is another very replaceable skill. It may protect you from offshoring because the stakeholders don't want to talk with people in third world countries and want to zoom with someone in a nice office paying 2k rent per month for a studio. It won't save you from AI. We jokingly built a chatbot to write in the style of our product manager and engineering manager and it's shockingly…

Everything is replaceable. My goal is to look for institutional barriers to keep the pretenders out.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Money aint everything.

Sounds like the sort of thing someone with money would say.

I think what GP meant was that money, beyond a certain point, means little. Upto that point money does mean a lot, and anybody who denies that has never lived in poverty.

What that specific point is, depends on who you're asking. If you ask me (a student in India), that point lies around $50k/year. For me that is an unimaginable amount of money, and I don't believe earning any more than that would result in a significant increase in quality of life.

But if you ask someone in USA, you might get a different answer. Maybe for them $300k/year is around where earning more wouldn't necessarily result in a significant benefit.

It depends on where you are, who you've been around, and what dreams you have.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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I work for a company that I think will last, and is good to work for so just hold on tight! I did move over to devops (platform if you prefer) which I think is more evergreen. So knowing both app development, being the person who can configure tailwind on npm, how to do backend queries and set up an ingress controller in kubernetes is kinda a good jack of all trades to have!

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Stop following the crowd. Where the crowd is, there are lots of people after your job, and if we're honest, probably better than you. I've had one job my entire career (31 years and counting.) It's very niche tech. I'm good at it. There are maybe 10 other people in the world who can do what I do. And they're all overworked. The real value and security in tech is in the edges, not the mainstream.

Curious how this works out financially though. Following the crowd got people into faang with 500k incomes. Working on something obscure I haven’t seen payoff the same.

It varies. Some specialist skills pay -really- well. You don't really hear about them because they're, well, niche.

Equally, yes, some folk rose up through the ranks at fang (or better yet fintech) and make mountains of loot. For each success there's a fair pile of failures though.

To rise up through those ranks, typically you need to make sacrifices. Long working hours, minimal time off, stand-by weekends, emails at night, and (imo) suffering the bs that comes with corporate jobs.

Building your own business are all those things too, but without the corporate bs.

The interesting thing about 500k though is asking what you can do on 500k, you can't do on 300. Or 200. Or in lots of the world, 50.

Time left for relationships, children, holidays, other interests and so on are important to me. So I'm prepared to balance those with raw income. I'm not making anything like 500k per year, but I've turned down fang recruiters because all the money in the world can't make up for what else it would cost me.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Stop following the crowd. Where the crowd is, there are lots of people after your job, and if we're honest, probably better than you. I've had one job my entire career (31 years and counting.) It's very niche tech. I'm good at it. There are maybe 10 other people in the world who can do what I do. And they're all overworked. The real value and security in tech is in the edges, not the mainstream.

Are you that engineer that fixed that AS400? Back in the early 2010s, there were like 5 people across, the whole UK who could work on those mainframes.

Not me :) - but that's the sort of thing I have in mind. I remember mainframe folks in the run up to y2k getting literal "blank cheques" to work on stuff.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Stay employable? I have been unemployed for 1.5 years. Absolutely NOBODY needs a product management leader anymore. If anything only entry level and I am overqualified to do that (not saying it arrogantly, but companies don't ever consider me stepping 3-4 levels back). Tech is in a slow death spiral.

They don’t need product management leaders. They need product managers.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Not sure about your capability but what I see in most of new devs and techs is serious lack of fundamentals. I would start there. Once you tick that box it doesn't really matter what's next. You'll pick it up quickly.

I used to believe this too. It’s completely true, but only a half truth.

It doesn’t matter how awesome you are, because in most cases employers are viewing the world as a bell curve and targeting the large population in the center. Being supremely awesome in your skills and capabilities moves you far away from the center of the bell curve.

Most employers realize many of the people in that swollen center seriously lack the fundamentals and adapt the environment accordingly, such as lowering barriers of entry and lowering minimally acceptable quality criteria. That is not the environment a top skilled developer will strive in.

My goal moving forward is to work in jobs with higher barriers of entry, preferably some manner of institutional barriers.

Re: Ask HN: What are you doing to stay employable in tech in the next 1-5 years?

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Game has always been the same, provide value and you'll do well.

How to provide value if gpt-6 (or even gpt-5) can do your job better and faster than you?

Use gpt-X as a tool to do your job even better and take on more responsibilities.

"AI" tools are at their heart productivity tools. Use them to be more productive so you can focus on higher value activities.

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