For much of our time in Canada this summer we had a US IP address on Starlink (Seattle PoP).
Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
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Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
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Also true, but as someone who ran my own asn and space for 5 years, it can be a pain when it doesn’t work. Spent a good chunk of time making sure my space showed as Ireland, not us or Germany. Netflix, Disney+ and others all didn’t like me to start… but there are ways of fixing it.
how can you run ur own asn ??
It's not that hard. Look up what your local internet registry requires (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC, AfriNIC, LACNIC) to allocate an ASN and allocate a /24 or at least approve a transfer of a /24. Typically you should have a location with two internet providers that will propagate your prefixes via BGP to their peers and transit. Find companies willing to accept your money so you can meet the requirements, also find someone with a /24 to transfer to you assuming your registry doesn't have any.
Tada. You've got an ASN and are running it.
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
how can you run ur own asn ??
It's not that hard. Look up what your local internet registry requires (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC, AfriNIC, LACNIC) to allocate an ASN and allocate a /24 or at least approve a transfer of a /24. Typically you should have a location with two internet providers that will propagate your prefixes via BGP to their peers and transit. Find companies willing to accept your money so you can meet the requirements, also find someone wi…
Yep, this - the process isn't hard but it is tedious. W/ ARIN you also have some waiting to do - and must register as a business and pay that registration fee.
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
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Probably the coolest answer in this thread! Did Antarctica have any other option for internet, next to the previous gen satellites?
Here at McMurdo we've had 24/7 satellite internet for at least as long as I've been coming down (~10 years). Think roughly a ~30mbps connection shared with ~1000 people with business and science bandwidth prioritized over personal browsing. So starlink has been a game changer for sure. At South Pole, I believe they don't yet have access to starlink. They also don't have 24 hour coverage for the few internet satellite…
Woah! So there was just a single "downlink" for the entire station? Are there multiple starlink antennas now? I guess the upside is that you don't have issues with overloaded satellites in your area :')
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
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If I have AS22, advertising 2.2.2.0/24 out of NY, then I can reach 1.1.1.1, great I then have 2.2.3.0/24 advertised out of Frankfurt with the same AS. Again I have transit. I can reach 1.1.1.1. How does a packet from 2.2.2.1 reach 2.2.3.1 -— 2.2.3.0 won’t be advertised by the transit to me in NY as it thinks I’ve already got the route, after all it originated from my AS.
They could have something to connect their sites, or even tunnel between them over their transit. But if they only have customers on their network, likely behind nat, they don't need to reach each other.
Peer to peer? Self hosted stuff? (not sure how these work with starlink specifically, but - they should work, even if for whatever reason they don't)
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
#56Using starlink at mcmurdo station in Antarctica. The IP shows as Sydney, Australia.
While analysing my web traffic I’ve seen 5 sessions from an IP registered to Starlink in Antarctica specifically
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also true, but as someone who ran my own asn and space for 5 years, it can be a pain when it doesn’t work. Spent a good chunk of time making sure my space showed as Ireland, not us or Germany. Netflix, Disney+ and others all didn’t like me to start… but there are ways of fixing it.
how can you run ur own asn ??
I ran as204994.net. There are some details about how i did it still there. I leased the v4 and v6 space due to cost.
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
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Google paid for Starlink. It's their loon replacement
Are you able to substantiate that claim somehow? I know SpaceX has a commercial arrangement to pay Google for services used to deliver Starlink, I'm not aware of anything close to "Google shut down Loon; Starlink is the replacement; Google is subsidizing/funding Starlink".
Google invested 900 million into starlink & shut down loon around the same time. There's tech from Google in starlink. Starlink uses Google cloud. In fact starlink used to show up as Google Fi. They now have their own network.
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
#59I had an experience using Starlink at a hotel in the Wadi Rum desert in Jordan. Funnily enough, I only became aware of this after some websites began redirecting me to their German versions - turns out our traffic was being routed through a host with an IP from one of their STRLNK-POP-FRNTDEU1 pools. The list @mkimball linked to doesn't include Jordan, likely because the service hasn't been officially launched in the…
How would it be anonymous? Spacex ties your account to your traffic and most likely logs quite a bit. Or do you just mean geo-located to the wrong country?
Hidden from your own country in that sense.
Re: Ask HN: How does Starlink work for IP address/ASN internationally?
#60Each block of IPs probably correspond to a ground station. Your data is probably mostly routed to the closest ground station.
POP. Each POP might have one or multiple blocks