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Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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If you're genuine about your goal (re-examine your own feelings, it's easy to deceive oneself!), your question is going in the wrong direction. The framework doesn't matter. If you want to release a startup quickly, just do the minimum amount of work to test the hypothesis you have about your user. Most of the time that will not involve programming. It could be as simple as setting up a Gform or calling a few friends…

One of the best answers IMHO. Should be the top spot.

Thanks for your input.

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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Fastify isn't full stack, is it? Auth, DB and other things would need to be added manually.

yeah, not really a full stack. But the modularity design allow us to use different components depends on our needs.

Re: Ask HN: Easiest and cheapest full-stack frameworks that you love?

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This! Use one of the many admin panels that directly build on your data structure. Administrate, RailsAdmin, ... As well as devise for Auth, Postgres as scalable cheap DB, and so on. I am not sure if any other framework can make a single person or small team this productive (when it comes to CRUD like operations)

Eh, I've tried rails many times just to ask myself what makes this better than laravel? I mean laravel new app --jet (jetstream/saas features) gets me: - authentication/authorization - Including: oauth, tokens, 2fa, etc. - queues w/ choice of redis, memcache, db, etc. - cache w/ choice of redis, memcache, db, etc. - SaaS dashboard w/ teams using something like phoenix's liveview called livewire OR vue + inertia - If…

Kinda what lakomen said actually. I started coding with PHP, tried to and semi learned many languages but it took ruby to fully understand why coding is pure fun. Took me several more years to realize that Rails is likely the last major framework I am going to learn and here I am, 10 years later, still rocking it.

I dont know anything about modern laravel or fancy js frameworks. But that's part of the magic, Rails still does all that for me, as it already did when laravel wasn't more than a toy framework yet and likely still does in 10 years from now.

PHP also is still the worst language I ever had to work with, that's opinionated tho.

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