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Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#51
I run Postfix, Dovecot, Spamassassin and Amavis/ClamAV. Works like a charm.

One day I ran in some problem with backscatter causing my mail server to be listed. It's good to setup your server to be less prone to this, I wrote a blog post with some configs / tips:

https://willem.com/blog/2019-09-10_fighting-backscatter-spam...

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#52
I got one self-hosted setup: Postfix, dovecot, both IPv4 and IPv6. It has been working for 15+ years and is still going strong. Never had any major deliverability issues.

In my new company we are using Gmail though. Easier to manage for non-tech people and it’s fully managed.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#53
I run a OpenSMTPD+Dovecot SMTP server on a rented VPS with my own domain. It /mostly/ runs fine, but when something breaks, that's really annoying. I think using a paid service with your own domain is probably a lot superior from a technical perspective, but I do like to do some weird things with my email that self-hosting allows me to. I definitely wouldn't recommend it if you don't have a decent amount of free time and technical knowledge.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#54
I used to in the late 90s early 2000s, but it became impractical. I also maintained one as part of my job in the 2000s, and it became obvious that the amount of upkeep/time was not worth it just to host it yourself.

The main headache? Anti-spam. A lot of IP ranges are just outright broadly blacklisted (e.g. residential IPs, some hosting services), but also a lot of individual IPs reused by hosting providers got blacklisted for actually sending spam. Then you have trust scores which are a huge chicken/egg headache (how do you gain trust while being span-binned from the get-go?). You'll spend your days asking to get unblocked from various random third party providers that you may never have heard of (e.g. email a small business about their online shop, and their email vendor bounced you because they never heard of you, they take ten days to respond, and now it takes two weeks to email some random small business).

Plus the ever-changing requirements (and they ARE requirements, if you lack reverse DNS/DMARC/SPF/DKIM/TLSA/valid certificates you will be blocked).

It is just a headache, time, and it actually costs more for the pleasure. Free Google Workspaces killed 90% of people self-hosting, too bad it costs tons of money these days.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#55
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I host at a couple of levels: * Mail in a Box for a bunch of low-volume domains, hosted on a major cloud provider VM. Total SMTP volume ~2k outbound emails a month. This was previously hosted on my own server in a datacenter. * Plesk/Postfix for a higher volume domain tied to a nonprofit, SMTP relayed out through Amazon AWS. Total SMTP volume ~100k emails a month. Likely moving this to a standalone Mail in a Box inst…

> Microsoft's similar service Would someone remember the name? I've tried to search for microsoft's postmaster but did not find anything.

https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/snds/

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#57
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Someone change my mind but I find hosting your email to be risky. I could lose my domain through social engineering or just by being in a coma and there is 0 grace period so if someone registers I lose everything.

you should archive your emails anyway, and gmail can be social engineered just the same right?

Most registrars can auto-renew so as long as your card stays valid you’re fine.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#58
I do; a simple Debian/exim setup; it also has dovecot for imap access (only available over a tunnel). I've run it for a long long time (~20 years?) and it only needs the occasional tweak. It's had DKIM/SPF added and gone through a few combinations of anti spam filtering (post reception). It runs on the bottom level VM at a local hosting provider; when I started it they were providing UML! Originally resource usage was a challenge when subscribed to big lists - but these days even the biggest/highest bandwidth lists are no problem for it. And compared to gmail's flaky imap it's fast!

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#60
post #18

I use Gmail. I used to self-host when my time was worth $15.50/hour (college), but these days I have many things more important in my life than meddling with email servers and fretting about deliverability.

I also use Google domains plus Gmail so I have a custom domain. Email is I think the single thing I'd never want the responsibility of hosting myself.
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