Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?

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Post by darrmit » Tue, Dec 06, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

Maxburn wrote: post #19

darrmit wrote: post #15

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I have had several issues with my personal .me domain. I’ve attributed it to poorly configured systems that consider it risky simply because it’s the TLD for Montenegro - despite it having millions of registrations for other legitimate purposes.

Hmm, I’m currently using a me TLD and I don't think I’m having trouble. But I’m on a good host and all my dmarc etc is set right. Give yourself a check with https://www.learndmarc.com/

Yeah, I have SPF, DKIM, and a strict DMARC policy all configured for Fastmail, but some hosts just refuse to pass the mail. It's pretty random and sporadic, but it happens. I've also had some web forms refuse to recognize it as a valid email address.

Re: Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?

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Post by Maxburn » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:32 AM UTC

darrmit wrote: post #51

Maxburn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, I’m currently using a me TLD and I don't think I’m having trouble. But I’m on a good host and all my dmarc etc is set right. Give yourself a check with https://www.learndmarc.com/

Yeah, I have SPF, DKIM, and a strict DMARC policy all configured for Fastmail, but some hosts just refuse to pass the mail. It's pretty random and sporadic, but it happens. I've also had some web forms refuse to recognize it as a valid email address.

A long time ago my fastmail.us didn't get accepted in places but I can't say I've had problems with that in recent years. Never had a issue with my me, I think people are well aware of the new tlds now.

As an extra bit of authenticity I've been smime signing my sent mail. Not encrypting, just signed. I figure that something no spamer is going to do and I’m hoping any spam filter will look at and pass it. Assuming they don't ignore it and make it a waste of time.

Re: Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?

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Post by Brian_K_White » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 9:36 PM UTC

tunap wrote: post #49

Brian_K_White wrote: post #46

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Maybe you don't want to have to work with people like that anyway.

I don't disagree, but it seems better to respond with appreciation for their candidness.

I also don't disagree with your point. But I am also intentionally informing them how their actions may be percieved by a bystander, or their own potential resource pool.

While they are pre-judging others for not using gmail because they see that as weird, I am a valuable capable potential producer judging them for their failings of both academic integrity (as in you just shouldn't do that simply because it's not right) AND also seperately for their failing of pure intelligence and their own self interest, because in fact some of the smartest most capable people are the ones willingly and knowingly taking on the burden of not using gmail for either practical or principled reasons, and they are filtering those people out, which I judge to be stupid. Those are probably exactly the most valuable people to their own interests.

While from the other side, I don't necessarily consider it to be stupidly filtering out potential employers, because I am not desperate for any scrap of employment.

I haven't noticed any special problem with my own PM address, but I have never tried to cold call anyone from it. So I would possibly agree that filtering out 90% is too much even if I'm not desperate, but I haven't encountered that problem because I'm not trying to contact a large number of new strangers.