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Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

onion2k wrote: post #16
mkl wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

£15m turnover, not profit.

I know. I can read. It doesn't matter whether it's turnover or profit. No one should stay at a company that's doing that much business with so few people without being paid more than that salary. Even if the company is making a loss then being paid £60k in a company with a £15m turnover is truly terrible. £15m is either a huge amount of work, in which case £60k isn't enough, or it's a reasonable amount of very expens…

If they are in low margin retail, or the "turnover" is really the turnover of their customers whose money they are handling - like for example an Amazon marketplace kind of thing, then 15m might be just a million of gross profit which is about about 70k per person. "Profit is sanity..."

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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Post by bradwood »

You should be able to find time to learn more outside of your 9-5. Do a few courses or get a side hussle/project going.

> Perhaps I need to look for a bigger company with a better career path? Maybe get back to contracting?

Career paths are not the accountability of your company to provide. They are your own responsibility.

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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Post by newone2three »

dustedcodes wrote: post #46
kentrado wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From those rates I assume you live in the USA. The huge salaries in the US, make me think that the situation is different in the UK, in terms of the challenges to accomplish this. I would like to know more about how to get started with this in the UK.

No, I am European but live in London (Wimbledon). The rates are absolutely UK rates. I think in the US you'd get much more, but then you have to pay a lot more as well for things which we get for free here (e.g. NHS). How to get started? My journey was what I think is quite common for a lot of contractors. First I started as a normal employee, worked in many different companies, large and small as a developer, junior…

I do the same thing, but through agencies, so the roles tend to be larger companies and rates more like 500-600.

Where do you look for open roles directly? I haven’t managed to figure this out.

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

orzig wrote: post #6

Getting a new job might be the right answer, but don’t leave without trying to drive a hard bargain with your current employer. You might be surprised at how flexible they can be, I was able to go down to less than 5 days a week almost instantly after asking for it, for example (though at a more interchangeable role at a larger employer). Give yourself two hours to study sales and negotiation techniques, it is a wort…

“yes i will take the raise thanks”

2 weeks later

“can I book 2 weeks unpaid leave…”

:-)

Re: Ask HN: Bored working for the current company, advice?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

bradwood wrote: post #52

You should be able to find time to learn more outside of your 9-5. Do a few courses or get a side hussle/project going. > Perhaps I need to look for a bigger company with a better career path? Maybe get back to contracting? Career paths are not the accountability of your company to provide. They are your own responsibility.

Bigger companies might provide more structure though and transparency around levels and measures.
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