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Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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I've switched to SE 2022 and it's "okayish". Much worse experience but good enough to get by and is reasonably priced. The mini model is another option, but is worse (no fingerprint, no button, notch...) and simply too expensive. The only plus of the mini model is the size, which is still worse than the original SE.

To be honest, my favourite model was 4s ;)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

#52

I still use it as Wifi-Calling support is better than on Android. But my options are limited. I hate the Home-Bar thing where you need to swipe. I don't really like the haptic Home buttom, mechanical feels much nicer. I don't like how the actual screen has rounded corners. I don't like the notch. I don't like the the really long aspect ratios. If I settle for the SE 2nd/3rd generation, I'm not sure how long the suppo…

This is it. We’ve reached peak civilization. Everyonee wants less, but organized differently.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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post #51

I've switched to SE 2022 and it's "okayish". Much worse experience but good enough to get by and is reasonably priced. The mini model is another option, but is worse (no fingerprint, no button, notch...) and simply too expensive. The only plus of the mini model is the size, which is still worse than the original SE. To be honest, my favourite model was 4s ;)

I personally love the mini. Its size is perfect. For me Face ID is much better than Touch ID and I don’t mind the notch. Bigger downside for me is battery life but I think it compares with the SE.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." So, it's safe to assume GP meant modern life with modern comforts, rather than "my oxygen is only available with an iCloud subscription".

I joke in order to suggest someone reconsider what they may have overlooked. I personally have never booked anything on a smartphone, and I'm content and perfectly well connected in 2022 in a first world country. I book things in a browser when I need to book something online, and that is generally on a laptop. It's no less convenient. In fact, I don't even have a mobile data plan, I just use WiFi. I prepay $10 every…

I suppose you own a car and solve all your personal logistics by driving (presumably in the US). That's a compromise I would not want to make just to get rid of the phone (a car seems much more annoying to deal with!)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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post #16

Will they not release security patches to the last-supported iOS version though? I think they were doing that in the past.

Exactly. iOS 12 was released in 2018 and received its final security update last August. So if Apple does the same with iOS 15 we should get another 3 years of security update.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got the 2022 iPhone SE. It's small, still has a fingerprint reader, and works well.

I got a refurbished iPhone SE 2nd version (2020) for my wife and she's happy about it so far. It only costs $200 which is nice. It's bigger than the other phones, but at this price I can't complain.

wow, that’s a pretty sweet deal at that price!

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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post #23
post #7

I use the iPhone 13 mini, it's marginally bigger than the SE.

"Marginally" https://imgur.com/a/W5b7RDF

The 12/13 mini is 9% wider and 6% taller[0], so I don't really think it's unfair to write "marginally bigger".

Also, the second picture is a bit misleading because it compares the SE to a container that itself is larger than the mini (as you can see in the third picture).

[0] Numbers from Mactracker. SE is 4.87" x 2.31" = 11.2497"^2. Mini is 5.18" x 2.53" = 13.1054"^2. That's a 16.5% increase in surface area

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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post #57
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Marginally" https://imgur.com/a/W5b7RDF

The 12/13 mini is 9% wider and 6% taller[0], so I don't really think it's unfair to write "marginally bigger". Also, the second picture is a bit misleading because it compares the SE to a container that itself is larger than the mini (as you can see in the third picture). [0] Numbers from Mactracker. SE is 4.87" x 2.31" = 11.2497"^2. Mini is 5.18" x 2.53" = 13.1054"^2. That's a 16.5% increase in surface area

The container is from a 6; here's the numbers from Apple:

* iPhone 5: 4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30

  Volume: 3.37491
* iPhone 12/13 Mini: 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.29

  Volume: 3.8
* iPhone 6: 5.44 x 2.64 x 0.27

  Volume: 3.877632
* iPhone 8: 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29

I would argue that 9% is far from marginal.

The increase from a 12 mini to an iPhone 6 is very minor; the increase from a 6 to 8 is marginal.

From a 5 to a 6 or 12/13 mini is substantial.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

#60
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I joke in order to suggest someone reconsider what they may have overlooked. I personally have never booked anything on a smartphone, and I'm content and perfectly well connected in 2022 in a first world country. I book things in a browser when I need to book something online, and that is generally on a laptop. It's no less convenient. In fact, I don't even have a mobile data plan, I just use WiFi. I prepay $10 every…

I suppose you own a car and solve all your personal logistics by driving (presumably in the US). That's a compromise I would not want to make just to get rid of the phone (a car seems much more annoying to deal with!)

I lived in the US years ago, I live in NZ now.

I do own a car, and it can go anywhere, carrying many people and goods very quickly and cheaply with no reservation or app required. It's also available in the event of natural disaster when all the rentals vanish. My family woke up to an earthquake that led to a tsunami warning at midnight in 2016, and there are fires and other problems one can foresee...

I do appreciate subway systems and find them very convenient for moving myself around, but dislike the idea of hiring someone else's machine every time I need to purchase groceries for a family or take 3 boxes of hardware to some place...

I think we may in some respects be regressing.

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