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Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#51
Protonmail. I don’t see why people use fastmail (the privacy laws in Australia are among the worst in the world), when they can get the encrypted version from proton.

Recently proton has offered a combo package, bundling email, vpn and storage. With client apps for proton drive, and higher storage space, it would be a great option.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#52

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the main issue I have with protonmail is that it locks you out, basically if you wanna move away from it, you can't just fwd the incoming emails

What prevents you from forwarding mail?

Short answer: everything is encrypted. So they could forward it in theory, but it would be unusable downstream anyway. The way you'd have to do it is set up the decryption email bridge on a client and set up some manual forwarding after that on the client side.

Happy proton user that doesn't need this feature, but gets why it would be frustrating for others who want a clean way to move off if they decide to.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What prevents you from forwarding mail?

Short answer: everything is encrypted. So they could forward it in theory, but it would be unusable downstream anyway. The way you'd have to do it is set up the decryption email bridge on a client and set up some manual forwarding after that on the client side. Happy proton user that doesn't need this feature, but gets why it would be frustrating for others who want a clean way to move off if they decide to.

I thought their Sieve filter supported forwards, but it doesn't.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#54
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Can’t recommend Migadu enough. Rock solid service with excellent support. Happy customer for about 3 years now—not once have I been sent to spam.

Completely agree. I've moved to using proton mail for my main address purely because of the new calendar and migadu for all my other domains and side projects. If they had a calendar I'd go back to them for everything, they're great.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

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post #51

Protonmail. I don’t see why people use fastmail (the privacy laws in Australia are among the worst in the world), when they can get the encrypted version from proton. Recently proton has offered a combo package, bundling email, vpn and storage. With client apps for proton drive, and higher storage space, it would be a great option.

Because ProtonMail doesn't offer SMTP and IMAP except by running a local proxy server on your own machine. When people say they want an "email service", they usually mean they want SMTP and IMAP.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#56

I've been using fastmail for the past 3+ years in an effort to de-google my life. It's been excellent, and I haven't had any issues with emails I've sent being classed as spam.

+1 Fastmail. $3.88/month if you pay in advance for 3 years for their standard plan. Totally amazing. Also in their web UI, you can select a professional font: Proxima Nova! The attention to detail is great.

What is a "professional font"?

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

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post #51

Protonmail. I don’t see why people use fastmail (the privacy laws in Australia are among the worst in the world), when they can get the encrypted version from proton. Recently proton has offered a combo package, bundling email, vpn and storage. With client apps for proton drive, and higher storage space, it would be a great option.

Because ProtonMail doesn't offer SMTP and IMAP except by running a local proxy server on your own machine. When people say they want an "email service", they usually mean they want SMTP and IMAP.

There is a Bridge if you want to download emails. I am not sure if it’s a full substitute for SMTP/IMAP though.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

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post #40

I would highly recommend protonmail. I am surprised with the top comments recommending fastmail. Is there any offering or feature I should know about with fastmail compared to protonmail premium?

I was on Protonmail before switching to Fastmail. Happy with both, but I do have a couple issues with Protonmail: 1. I remember the webui being really slow. Maybe because it was hosted in Europe? This was a couple years ago. Fastmail has one of the best/fastest web apps I've ever used. 2. I'm still paying Protonmail because their export tool doesn't support Linux and so far I can't be bothered. 3. Not being able to u…

Makes sense, thanks for explaining. I just use the webui so works for me fine.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

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post #40

I would highly recommend protonmail. I am surprised with the top comments recommending fastmail. Is there any offering or feature I should know about with fastmail compared to protonmail premium?

the main issue I have with protonmail is that it locks you out, basically if you wanna move away from it, you can't just fwd the incoming emails

Perhaps using a custom domain would be best if you might need that.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for Email Service Recommendations

#60

I've been using fastmail for the past 3+ years in an effort to de-google my life. It's been excellent, and I haven't had any issues with emails I've sent being classed as spam.

Fastmail makes an excellent email client, but there are significant privacy concerns that have not been adequately addressed in many people's eyes.

Namely, that Australia (where Fastmail is based) passed laws that require all Australian companies to give any/all data on their users to the Australian government, and are not allowed to publicly disclose what is given.

Not that Google is any better.

If you want a privacy-focused email that "just works" consider Protonmail or Tutanota. Alternatively, if you're feeling bold, you can self-host your own email like I do, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're in it for the fun of it!

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