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Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#51
What you describe exists somewhat in a form in the US. Most major universities have some type of "friends of library" program. You make an application and donate some money. You're then allowed to use the facilities for studying/reading/working. The donation is usually tax deductible. You're given the same access to the areas as the student population. The libraries all have quiet areas (or floors) and reservable enclosed quiet rooms (sometimes the rooms can be reserved remotely through a web interface). I had a reader membership for Cooper Union when I lived in Manhattan.

Major cities also have private libraries where a similar arrangement exists. Public libraries may be too busy and not as stringent in maintaining sound levels. They usually don't have private rooms either. From my experience, they are also not as clean as private libraries.

I've been confused why more people don't take advantage of these "friend of a library" programs or take part in private library memberships. The programs allow non-students to support libraries (although private ones) and they're significantly cheaper than going to cafes or coffee shops. I'm pretty sure most places will want you to buy something everytime to be considered a patron so that you aren't kicked out or pressured for freeloading.

Examples:

* Cooper Union (https://library.cooper.edu/friends/)

* NYU (https://library.nyu.edu/about/general/fob/)

* Princeton (https://fpul.princeton.edu/)

* NY Society Library (https://www.nysoclib.org/)

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#52
I feel like this is more of a lifestyle thing that would need to start organically within a community. If you did this solo with a street sign, it would be dead.

Even if successful, you probably won’t much money from it. Best that it be a passion project born out of a need to help others. If you either don’t have the passion or want to make money then go to the next idea.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are centers in India where many people pay for a very very similar concept. They are called "Vipassana" centers ( people are not allowed to talk also ). The whole idea is to detox ( no internet / mobile / even talking ), people collectively do Yoga, and eat/drink all natural food for a couple of days.

Sorry, but shouldn't Vipassana be free..? I have been in few meditation camps in Europe for 10 day silent meditation courses (loved it), but I was told it was free by design..?

Opening one yourself and charge nothing should answer your own question.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#54
People I know do Silent Retreats, or live temporarily in a monastery, Christian or Buddhist. Thinking of it, the Silent retreats are yoga related, a washed down form of eastern religion, so they're all religious.

Sometimes I go into a church for the same reason, but just for 10 minutes.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#55

There is apparently a writers cafe in Tokyo with similar concepts. You leave distractions at the door and tell staff your goal for the day and aren't allowed to leave until you've met them (with the weakest interpretation of the word "allowed"). In terms of getting away from noise pollution, I think this is more generally provided in major Asian cities through sauna and public baths.

Oh yeah, that was hilarious. But I can see some use in it. HN had quite a discussion on how the writing requirements would be enforced - I'm pretty sure a lot of it just comes down to Japanese etiquette and personal honor.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012685

Gotta be in Tokyo, though.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#56
post #4

There were at least a few companies that already tried something similar. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/recharge https://breather.com/

Breather just lists a bunch of office meeting spaces in my area (Austin TX). I don't think they would work for disconnecting, but they could work for deep work.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#57
I've been working on a very similar idea. I called it "Pause Room".

The assumption I started from was that such an experience has a potential of improving participants' overall productivity and self-perception of mental wellbeing and focus during and post-experience. The key was to measure and improve those metrics while refining the experience itself. I have managed to successfully complete a 3-month pilot with clear indication that this is doable and can be beneficial. This was a very strong selling point.

B2C path didn't graduate due to unaffordable expected end-consumer costs. I ended up focusing on 50-500-employee companies with the intention of building these rooms according to spec for monthly membership fee from their HR budgets. COVID hit and there were no offices or HR budget allocations anymore. For B2B, a catchphrase that worked for me and caught everyone's attention was that "happy hours" cost them hours and bring no happiness.

I believe this is a necessity in today's growing pace of things. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#58
post #35

I kinda like the idea. If this was paired with something like a cafe trolley service then it could be quite nice. Chill little rooms that are peaceful and every hour on the hour the offer of green tea. Little oases in which to read, write, or code with minimal other distractions. My partner is an academic and is seeking a retreat space bookable on a weekly basis (not hourly) in which to have silence and write with mi…

"The first thing that comes to mind though: How do you stop this being used as a place for drugs and sex? How do you balance the low distraction and privacy with a basic need to prevent the spaces being used in a way that creates risk for the business?"

Prevent sex -- by only allowing one person in the room at a time. I've also thought about a semi-private space where the room is largely separated but not completely insulated. Like the door is opaque but not completely transparent?

Prevent drug use -- honestly have no idea for now.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#59

Blunt feedback: This isn't a startup. You're looking at the intersection of people who: * Need to get away from distractions. * Lack self-control to reduce distractions themselves. * ...but do have discipline to check in regularly to this distraction-detox zone. * Have something they can do to fill up time that doesn't require connectivity. No google docs, and no streaming music. * Are not claustrophobic. * Will visi…

Only way I can see this being profitable is if it's done on a gym-style subscription basis.

You pay $X/mo for access to the service. Your X buys you Y x 2hr slots which you have to book in advance to manage availability.

You can have different tiers for X and Y, but you would need to make sure you have good availability, otherwise people would cancel their subscription if they can never find a good slot.

Re: Ask HN: Startup idea – disconnected, physical space charged by hour

#60

Some thoughts: Actively blocking cell phone signals might be illegal depending on your country - but building a faraday cage isn't. Given how much of your identity a phone has become, and how easily someone could take my identity over if they had access to my device, only death or threat of deadly force will separate me from mine. If you want to go for the "handing in" approach, maybe small lockers are ok (especially…

One idea is to let the guest put his device in a faraday cage, locked, and bring the cage into the room. The key of the cage would be kept at the counter accessible to the guest also in a self-serve manner. So the guest will know he has his device with him, but cannot use it during his stay.
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